12th Imam's Curse ? and Imam Ali's (as) Sympathy ?

The traitorous behaviour of both Ibn al-`Alqami and Nasiru'd-Din Muhammad ibn Muhammad at-Tusi   during the Mongol invasion is well known in history. There have been attempts by the 12ers to defend this case, and till this day the best defence I have seen from their side is to point out the internal wars between Shafis and Hanafis. This internal war actually helped the Mongols to target Iraq next, however from there it was 12ers shia leaders took over in assisting the opposition come into Iraq. Recall the ruler of this time was not known for his anti shia behaviour. The proof for that is the fact, that Ibn al-Alqami was the minister of the Abbasid ruler  Mustasim Billah. Aside from that let us look at the so called supplication of Shaykh Tusi II which supposed caused this to happen.

The caliph at the moment was vacationing near the Tigris river along with his vizier. He took the book from Shaikh Tusi and handed it to the vizier. Being an enemy of the Ahlul Bayt, the vizier tossed the book into the river and mocked Shaikh Tusi. The aggrieved scholar returned home and prayed for justice. That night, he dreamed that he was standing in front of a wall upon which a very long supplication was inscribed. A man happened to be standing near the wall. The Shaikh inquired as to who he was. The man told him that he was the 12th Imam (may Allah hasten his reappearance).
The Imam told Shaikh Tusi to memorize the supplication and that it would help him overcome his adversary. The supplication survives to this day as the second Du'a Tawassul listed in many prayer manuals, including Mafatihul Jinan.
Shortly thereafter, Shaikh Tusi joined the palace of an Ismaili prince in order to be able to better spread the message of Truth. The Mongols were on the rise in central Asia, and eventually this small kingdom was conquered by Halaku Khan. Seeing Shaikh Tusi's brilliance and widom, Halaku appointed him as prime minister. He often attempted to convert Halaku to Islam, but given the latter's primitive origins and little interest in anything beyond warfare and conflict, he was not too successful. In 656 AH, Halaku invaded and ransacked Baghdad, bringing an end to the Abbasid caliphate. Shaikh Tusi saw the Imam's prophecy come true, as he was able to arrest and punish the vizier for committing atrocities against himself as well as thousands of other Shias.
http://islamicinsights.com/religion/history/shaikh-naseeruddin-tusi.html

Now the next line says

Many people have condemned Shaikh Tusi, blaming his complicity with Halaku as a result of his alleged animosity towards the Sunni political establishment. The truth of the matter is that Shaikh Tusi had little choice in the matter. If he had refused to serve Halaku, he most certainly faced death. By working with Halaku, he was able to spread Shi'ism to several distant parts of the world, and it is said that he did more to propagate the Truth than probably any other person in history. http://islamicinsights.com/religion/history/shaikh-naseeruddin-tusi.html

Little choice ? Fear of facing death ? I thought Shaykh Tusi was motivated by the 12th Imam's curse toward the Sunni popluation.


Now let us analyze if there is any truth in Shaykh Tusi’s vision with the 12^th Imam. In the past Ammar Nakshawani  tried to defend the 12er shia position in this area, but after the opponents of the 12er responded the supporters of Nakshawani made the videos private on youtube.


The allege curse of the  12^th imam’s   went so  far the Mongols invaded Iraq and even attached the shrine of the Imams. Didn’t the 12^th imam know this  ?

Well in history Imam  Ali (as) actually prophesizes this event and discusses the dangers they will cause.

Sermon 127 About Important happenings in Basrah

O' Ahnaf! It is as though I see him advancing with an army which has neither dust nor noise, nor rustling of reins, nor neighing of horses. They are trampling the ground with their feet as if they are the feet of ostriches. (1) Woe to you (the people of Basrah's) inhabited streets and decorated houses which possess wings like the wings of vultures and trunks like the trunks of elephants; they are the people from among whom if one is killed he is not mourned and if one is lost he is not searched for. I turn this world over on its face, value it only according to its (low) value, and look at it with an eye suitable to it.

Referring to the Turks (Mongols)

I (2) can see a people whose faces are like shields covered with rough-scraped skins. They dress themselves in silken and woollen clothes and hold dear excellent horses. Their killing and bloodshed shall take place freely till the wounded shall walk over the dead and the number of runners-away shall be less than those taken prisoner:
One of his companions said to him: O' Amir al-mu'minin, you have been given knowledge of hidden things. Whereupon Amir al-mu'minin laughed and said to the man who belonged to the tribe of Banu Kalb: O' brother of Kalb! This is not knowledge of hidden things (`ilmu'l-ghayb), (3) these matters have been acquired from him (namely in Prophet) who knew them. As regard knowledge of hidden things, that means knowledge of the Day of Judgement, and the things covered by Allah in the verse.

Verily, Allah is He with Whom is the knowledge of the Hour... (Qur'an, 31:34)

Therefore, Allah alone knows what is there in the wombs, whether male or female, ugly or handsome, generous or miserly, mischievous or pious, and who will be the fuel for Hell and who will be in the company of the Prophets in Paradise. This is the knowledge of the hidden things which is not known to anyone save Allah. All else is that whose knowledge Allah passed on to His Prophet and he passed it on to me, and prayed for me that my bosom may retain it and my ribs may hold it.

Najh Al Balagha Sermon 127

Another Blatant Nasibi

I got someone to translate this for me and he   wishes that he was the killer of Imam Husayn, to "realize the reward of following the Sunnah.

This understanding is taken IMAM IBN ABDEL BARR and sadly he is a Maliki.

Now the defense for this is he supposedly  is referring to a Hadith in Al Bukhari (or Muslim) where the Prophet (peace be upon him) ordered to kill the one who claims to be the Khalifah if there is already a Khalifah.

On the contrary, Yazid was King. He was not a calipah. The Prophet (pbuh) said the Caliphate will last 30 years. Therefore, how can this rule extend to Muawiyah and Yazid ?

An Explicit Nasibi Syed Salafi Scholar

I always thought Nasibis were hidden among the community. However, it seems like we have people who are open about their beliefs.

Syrian Muhaddith Shaykh Zuhair Shawish, says: " I am Husayni by genealogy, Umawi by Manhaj (belief/methodology). Husayn bin Ali fought a war and may have been mistaken".

Common Sense Is Enough to Tell You Where Bibi Fatima (sa) Should Be Burried ?

I've heard some 12ers Shia say that Abi Bakr(ra) stopped Bibi Fatima (as) from being buried beside the Prophet  . Then they add that Imam Ali (as) dug a tunnel from jannat al Baqi to reach there because of Abi Bakr's (ra) rule.
So in their view we have both the Prophet    and Bibi Fatima (sa) buried beside the Abi Bakr (ra) and Umar (ra).

I asked the 12ers what is the proof that Bibi Fatima (sa) should be buried beside Abi Bakr (ra) ? The 12ers said its common sense because that is part of inheritance.
I replied back by saying if it is common sense then I have about a dozen of questions to ask you.

If its common sense are any of Imam Ali's (as) daughter(s) buried beside him ?
If its common sense are any of Imam Hassan's (as) daughter(s) buried beside him ?
If its common sense are any of Imam Hussain's (as) daughter(s) buried beside him ?
If its common sense are any of Imam Sajjad's (as) daughter(s) buried beside him ?
If its common sense are any of Imam Baqir's (as) daughter(s) buried beside him ?
If its common sense are any of Imam Sadiq's (as) daughter(s) buried beside him ?
If its common sense are any of Imam Kazim's (as) daughter(s) buried beside him ?
If its common sense are any of Imam Rida's (as) daughter(s) buried beside him ?
If its common sense are any of Imam Taqi's (as) daughter(s) buried beside him ?
If its common sense are any of Imam Naqi's (as) daughter(s) buried beside him ?
If its common sense are any of Imam Askari's (as) daughter(s) buried beside him ?


If the answer to all these question is no then please explain how this is common sense or part of inheritance as the 12er shia say?

The 12ers had no answer left.
Also, we must recall that be buried beside the Prophet   is a big merit because Imam Hassan (as) himself asked Bibi Ayesha (ra) permission to have this privilege.

Of course the 12er version of this story about Bibi Ayesha (ra) arrow or opposing Imam Hassan (as) has been proven wrong umpteen amount of times.          

The Radius of Blessing of Masjid al Kufa is 12 miles ?

Whenever you remind a 12er that Abi Bakr (ra) and Umar (ra) are buried beside the Prophet    they reply by saying "so what?"


However, in their traditions the 6th imam says "up to twelve miles of land in all directions from the mosque are blessed by its holiness."

      Hudhayfah narrated that Imam Al-Sadiq said :"by God ! this holy place is one of the four dignified mosques, which are: Grand Mosque in Kaaba, the Mosque of Medina, Al Aqsa Mosque, and this Mosque of Yours -  he meant  Al-Kufa Grand Mosque – By God ! it is there at that holy pillar where the diluvium had started submerging earth and right there at the fifth column beyond the nave of the mosque, Kinda gate, and niche of Prophet Ibrahim Al-Khalil, whereas in the middle of it, Noah had had his ark made there. Performing two prostrations of prayer would be better for me than ten others at any mosque –as an infallible Imam he means it is better for all Muslims to do so – And the mosque had lost twelve thousand arms area- ruined by the tyrant Obeid allah bin Ziad- even though it was the bless of its original 12miles and always would be."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Mosque_of_Kufa#cite_note-MAK-2


However, in the 12er shia books I have not seen any traditions on the radius of blessings  on mosque of the Prophet (pbuh).

The Dozener Ship of Salvation

Although this article is from a Salafi site, I think gives you a general understanding of the jahil beliefs of the 12er shia.

Once upon a time, I was by the beach. It was a windy day, and the waves were hitting the shore so hard. A mile from where I was standing, there was a ship sailing. Luckily, I had with me a pair of binoculars. I looked through them, and guess what? I saw a tag sign on the ship says “The Ship of Salvation”.

It rang a bell in my mind. I’ve heard about this ship from the Shi’ites books, and had the desire the get on board of this ship ever since. It was an opportunity I couldn’t afford to miss.

I hired a boat, and before I know it, I was there, next to the “Ship of Salvation”. I waived for them to stop and pick me up. Sure enough, someone on board threw me a rope, and I managed to get on board.

Frankly speaking, it was a huge ship, just like the ship Titanic. I was so happy to be on it. It was amazing indeed. There were so many people on board, and all have welcomed me and congratulated me for being “saved”.

I decide to treat myself by taking a tour on this ship. There were so many rooms, halls and courts onboard. So I decided to check them out.

I went through the first room, and there I found a man dressed in black guarding a safe filled with money and treasures. I was quite amazed that the overall majority of the people on board were poor, yet this man is such filthy rich. He noticed what was going in my mind, and said:

- This is my money, it is my due ‘cuz I’m a sayyid.

I didn’t quite understand what he meant by that. Nevertheless, being so happy to be on board of this great ship, I left him to check the next room.

As soon as I walked out, I heard a young girl’s voice screaming & yelling. I asked the people of what’s going on?

They said: her dad is contracting her for Mut’ah to a rich man, but she’s refusing. I didn’t care much and continued my own tour.

The next room I got in, there were lots of kids of all ages. I asked the baby sitter what are these kids doing here?

She said: they are the products of Mut’ah.

I said: Gosh, what the heck is Mut’ah?

She said: It is a form of a marriage for an hour, a night, a week or whatever. It was forbidden by the 2nd.

I asked: Well … didn’t the 2nd like "marriage"?

She said: The Prophet made it Halal.

I said: wasn’t Mut’ah a practice of pre-Islamic era, and Islam forbade it gradually like liquor?

She said: Nope.

I said: Oh ok. If this is the Ship of Salvation, I assume everything you guys say is true.

I kept on touring the Ship. But at this time, I heard the Adhaan for Friday Prayer. I went a head to perform the Prayer, but I found so many people stayed in their rooms and only few went to the mosque.

Naturally I asked them, how come you are not praying whilst you are on the Ship of Salvation?

One of them answered me saying: Friday Prayer is not mandatory before the appearance of Al-Mahdi [aj]

I said: oh ok, Jazakallah.

On my way to the mosque, there I noted so many courts written on them “Hussainiyyah”.

I asked: ummm, what are these?

And I was told: these are the Homes of al-Hussain.

I said: Does Al-Huusain have homes just like Allah?

They replied: yep.

I said to myself, yalla since Friday Prayer is not a Fard, let me enter one of these Hussainiyyahs and see what they do in there.

As soon as I walked in, I heard some people crying, others are weeping, and some are hitting their backs with chains, n others cutting their heads w/ swords.

I said to one of them, isn’t this an act forbidden in Islam?

He said: nope, only when it causes harm, but it ain't causing any.

I smiled n said Kewl, cuz after all I am on board of “Ship of Salvation”.

Then, I heard some of them saying:

May Allah curse the 1st, the 2nd and the 3rd.

I said: what’s going on? Are high school grades already out?

They said: Noooooo.

I said: oh ok, what do you mean then?

They said: speak in a low breath.

I said: why? What do you mean … I’m lost.

They said: hush .. speak in a low breath.

They said: lest our Sunni brothers hear you.

I said: this ship is the Ship of Salvation, only Shi’ites on board.

They said: oh yeah, that’s right, we forgot about that. Ummm, we mean by the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, Abu Bakr, Omar and Othman.

I said: you curse the companions of the Messenger [saw] whom Allah stated He is well pleased with and repented upon?


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The vanguard (of Islam)- the first of those who forsook (their homes) and of those who gave them aid, and (also) those who follow them in (all) good deeds,- well- pleased is Allah with them, as are they with Him: for them hath He prepared gardens under which rivers flow, to dwell therein for ever: that is the supreme felicity. (9:100)


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Allah turned with favour to the Prophet, the Muhajirs, and the Ansar,- who followed him in a time of distress, after that the hearts of a part of them had nearly swerved (from duty); but He turned to them (also): for He is unto them Most Kind, Most Merciful. (9:117)

They said: but they have turned apostates afterwards.

I said: these verses are explicit on His pleasure with them, have you any verses proves they’ve deserved his wrath?

They said: you don’t understand.

They asked me: Don’t you know that Omar attacked Fatimah, broke her ribs and murdered the child in her womb?

I said to myself: it sounds like a movie by Hollywood. But then I said: Where was Haidar?

They said: He does not like to get into quarrels.

I felt so embarrassed and remembered I am on board of Ship of Salvation. Nevertheless I said: ummm, can I ask a question?

They said: sure .. go ahead.

I said: if you are proud of your creed and believe it is the truth, why not openly curse the companions by their names?

They said: Oh, that is mandated by Taqiyyah.

I said: but Taqiyyah should be taken as a temporary permit, not a creed and certainly not to be 9-10th of the faith.

They said: just be quiet, you don’t understand.

I said to myself, why are you such a pain in the back? Don’t you realize you are on board of the Ship of Salvation?

I halted for a moment, and said to myself: why don’t you open the Qur’an and read few pages to relax and kick out the whims of Shaytan?

I walked toward the mosque .. and got in, and asked a brother to hand me a Qur’an.

He sure enough handed me a copy. I turned the cover page on, and surprisingly it says on: Mus’haf Othman, the narration of Hafs on the authority of ‘Asim.

I said to myself: my goodness, wasn’t it this man they have been cursing a minute ago? I turned to them and asked:

Is this “Othman” different from the one you curse?

They replied: nope, it is him the same guy.

I said: Then why are you reading his version?

They said: ummm just temporarily, until the hidden Imam comes up and bring forth the real version which contains the scandals of the companions and the real order of chapters.

I said: can we really be following truth and not have a version of the Qur’an with a Shi’ite chain of narrators? Can we really use the Nasibis’ chain of narrators?

They said: Just be quiet, you don’t understand.

I really felt so bad at this moment. But I said Aiuthubillah, and kept on going to continue my tour.

Somehow, I felt the desire to read the Hadith of the Messenger [saw]. I headed toward one of those Homes of al-Hussain, and I asked for a book of Hadith.

The people in there were taken by surprise. They said: Say what?

I said: I’m asking you for a book of Hadith of the Messenger [saw].

They said: why?

I said: I wanno read it, understand it, and memorize it.

They said: no no no

I said: what do you mean by no no no?

They said: you don’t have to, all you need to do is to make taqleed to one of the Marji3, give him 1/5th of your income, and he will teach you and tell you what to do.

I was shocked .. I mean, can’t I read the Hadith of the messenger [saw] just like I read the Qur’an?

They said without hesitation: We don’t have a Sahih Books, our books are filled with lies, myth and superstitions, let alone the chain of narrators are sucks. We have 100,000 narrations by Zurara, yet Imam Ja’far [as] says: May Allah curse Zurara. But the Marji’ knows how to deduct what is good for you out of these books.

I said: how can that be? We are the followers of Ahlul-Bayt, yet we don’t have a true Qur’an or authentic Hadith?

They said: be quiet, you don’t understand.

I said: hasbiyallah .. fine, I will find me a Marji to follow him and pay him 1/5th of my income. But how would I know who is a Marji’

They answered me: oh, you will find him wearing blacks.

Sure enough, I found at a distance a man with black outfit, I approached him and said: Are you a Marji sir?

He said: nope, I am a janitorial man. You will know the Marji’ by his headgear. He wears a black tire head turban.

At anyhow, I found me one with black turban. I approached him and said: Sayyed, can I pay you 1/8th of my income for teaching me my faith and make a taqleed for you?

He said: Nope, I will not accept less than 1/5th.

I said: look, I have a good bargain for you, I will give you 1/6th of the income.

He said: No way, the price is fixed, not negotiable.

I said: What evidence have you to take 1/5th? Was the Messenger [saw] taking 1/5th of the people’s wealth and businesses? He surely was taking 1/5th of the booties of wars.

He said: shut the hell up, you don’t understand.

I was really sad at this point. I left him, and on the way, I found another Hussainiyyah. I walked in, and saw a multitude of people sitting in listening to a lecture. I said, al-Hamdulillah, finally I found a Majlis of knowledge. I sat down and began to listen to the speaker who was saying the Imams are better than the Prophets of Allah.

I couldn’t be quiet, I said: how in the world you make a preference for the Imams over the Prophets of Allah? Are you doubting the Choice of Allah? Is al-Askari better than Khalilur-Rahman Ibrahim? Do you think al-Baqir is better than Kaleemullah Musa or the Word of Allah Isa?

The people just gave me a bad look and started to stare at me. I got scared, so I kept quiet.

He then moved on to talk about the creed of al-Badaa’. He said: The Imam after Ja’far was his son Ismael, but then Ismael died before his father. So Allah changed His mind and decided to make the following Imam Musa al-Kadhim. I was shocked, but I wasn’t able to speak out.

I left quickly, and decided to continue with my tour. I saw a ballroom lit with lights and a lot of people were in there. I approached near, and found some tombs that the people are crowling around, making circumambulation and asking the dead to answer their prayers and grant them their needs. I was again shocked. I thought to myself, I must have got in the wrong ship.

A man approached me and said, come on fellow, ask for your needs, the saints will surely grant you your wishes. They have attained a high rank with Allah and Allah does not turn them down.

But I still had my doubts, I recalled the Kuffar of Quraish and how they used to make circumambulation around their idols asking them to grant them their needs, and their belief that they are only a medium between mankind and Allah. As I looked around, I found a door to a basement. I went through a narrow hall that lead me to the basement. In there, I found a book three times the size of the Qur’an with lots of changes and distortions, as well as other books, a stick and a sword.

Suddenly, a naked man showed up. I was horrified. I said, who are you?

He said: I am Abu Salih, the Mahdi.

I checked him out again, he was smelling and looks so awful, with old piece of clothing on the ground, which I figured was his since he was two years old. I was really dead scared. I ran out, and out of my horror I stumbled with a rope was there and fell in the sea water.

I managed to keep my head above the water, and lo I saw from a distance another ship, it was written on it:

In The Name of Allah, Most Beneficent, Most Merciful.

There is no god but Allah, Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah.

The Ship of Muhammad, His Progeny and Companions.

The Ship of al-Qur’an & Sunnah

The Ship of loving Ahlul-Bayt and companions

The Ship of Loving Mothers of Believers.

The Ship of Islamic Conquests and spreading Islam.

The Ship of Fasting the Day and Praying at Night

The Ship of Those who call only On Allah.

I started to hear from distance the recitation of Qur’an, with people praying and crying to Allah.

I lifted my hands up praising Allah, and knew that was the real Ship of Salvation.

I swam my way toward that ship, and got on board. And lo it shined up, and I fell in prostration to Allah.

And I woke up. God what a sweet dream

(translated from a post on www.d-sunnah.net)

Imam Hassan's (as) Prophecy on the Rule of the Ummayad Monarchy

Imam Tirmithi and Imam Hakem narrated and many others. Al Hakem authenticated the Hadith:

قام رجل إلى الحسن بن علي، فقال: يا مسود وجوه المؤمنين، فقال الحسن: لا تؤنبني رحمك الله فإن رسول الله (3170) قد رأى بني أمية يخطبون على منبره رجلاً رجلاً فساءه ذلك فنزلت: {إِنَّا أَعْطَيْناكَ الْكَوْثَر} نهر في الجنة، ونزلت: {إِنّا أَنْزَلْناهُ في لَيْلَةِ الْقَدْرِ وَما أَدْرَاكَ ما لَيْلَةُ الْقَدْرِ لَيْلَةُ الْقَدْرِ خَيْرٌ مِنْ أَلْفِ شَهْرٍ} تملكها بنو أمية فحسبنا ذلك، فإذا هو لا يزيد ولا ينقص. هذا إسناد صحيح، وهذا القائل للحسن بن علي هذا القول هو سفيان بن الليل صاحب أبيه.

A Man came to Imam Hasan (after the accord with Muawiayh) and told him: You have blackened the faces of the believers (by having an agreement with Muawiyah). Al Hasan said: do not blame me, may Allah have mercy on you, for Rasoolullah has seen Bani Umayyah delivering speeches on his Minbar (on prophetic Minbar) and that upset him, so the Ayah Inna A'taynaka Al Kawthar was revealed, and (Inna Anzalnahu fi laylati Qadr....and the night of Qadr is better than a 1000 months) a 1000 months in which Bani Umayyah rule. (i.e this the beginning of the 1000 months).

Imam Ibn Asaker narrated in his Tarikh Dimashq page 166:

قيل للحسن بن علي: تركت أمارتك وسلمتها إلى رجل من الطلقاء وقدمت المدينة؟ فقال: اني اخترت العار على النار

Al Hasan bin Ali was told: you left your leadership (khilafah) and gave it to a man from the Tulaqa (those Kuffar who were given amnesty at the liberation of Makkah event, then were paid money to remain under the name of Islam- some of them like Abu Sufyan and Muawiyah started out like this but their Islam has gotten better as the Ulama and Historians narrate- and Sayyidina Umar stopped their regular salary to remain Muslims) and you returned to Madina? Al Hasan said: I choose Shame over Hellfire. 

Ibn Jarir  in his Commentary has related on the authority of the grandfather of Abu Sahl that he said,

  " the Apostle of God saw the children of al Hakam-b-Abi'l A'as leap upon his pulpit with the leap of apes, and that troubled him and he never brought himself to smile until his death, and God revealed to him concerning it, " We have appointed the vision which we showed thee only for an occasion of dispute unto men."  

 Abu Jaa'far Muhammad-b-Jarir at Tahari is the author of a great Commentary
on the Quran and a famous history. He was a master of the highest authority
on various branclies of knowledge, such as tradition, jurisprudence and the like—bom
A. H. 224 (838-9) at Amul in Tabaristau and died at Baghdad A. H. 310 (A. D. 923)


From the above ahadith one can conclude that it is more beneficial for a Muslim to enjoy one night under a  just ruler compared to  1000 months of rule  of the tyrannical regime of the Bani Ummayah. The exceptions in the Kingdom of Bani Ummayah were Umar bin Abdul Aziz (ra) and Muawiyah bin Yazid (ra).