The battle of Jamal was fought, Ali 's army was victorious, both Talha and Zubair were killed by their own men and bibi Ayesha was sent back to Madina under the escort of her brother Muhammad ibne Abibakr. She always repented this venture and asked forgiveness from God. When with the connivance of Moawiya her brother Muhammad ibne abi bakr was killed and his body was put into the body of a dead camel and burnt, she cursed Moawiya five times a day after every prayer, throughout her life..
http://www.al-islam.org/kaaba14/4.htm
As for other sources there are many in the Sunni books.
"When Hadhrath Ayesha used to recite the Ayat ("And stay quietly in your houses, and make not a dazzling display, like that of the former Times of Ignorance;.." Al-Quran 33:33) she used to cry so much that her cover used to get wet with tears".(Tafsir Durre Manthur Volume 5 page 196 commentary of Surah Ahzab, Hilayat al Awliya Volume 2 page 48, Chapter "Dhikr Ayesha" and Tabaqat al Kabeer Volume 8 page 81 under the Chapter "Dhikr Ayesha")
http://www.al-islam.org/kaaba14/4.htm
As for other sources there are many in the Sunni books.
"When Hadhrath Ayesha used to recite the Ayat ("And stay quietly in your houses, and make not a dazzling display, like that of the former Times of Ignorance;.." Al-Quran 33:33) she used to cry so much that her cover used to get wet with tears".(Tafsir Durre Manthur Volume 5 page 196 commentary of Surah Ahzab, Hilayat al Awliya Volume 2 page 48, Chapter "Dhikr Ayesha" and Tabaqat al Kabeer Volume 8 page 81 under the Chapter "Dhikr Ayesha")
I dislike for you to be damning people. If only you were to describe what they do and mention their condition that would have been a more accurate statement and it would have served the purpose of rationality and instead of you using, saying or vocalizing this cursing, cussing, damning, defaming and blaspheming language say O Allah save our blood and their blood and reconcile what is between us and what is between them, i.e. have this difference that we have among us reconciled; and guide them out of their waywardness so that he who is ignorant of the truth and the fact will become familiar and knowledgeable of it and he will be withheld from transgression and aggression. (Nahaj Al Balagha SERMON NO.206(or in some editions,no.202))
Imam Ali (as) openly condemns his supporters from cursing. Why is it so hard for the 12rs Shia to apply these rules for Bibi Ayesha (ra)
? This rule Imam Ali (as) gave was openly for those who fought against him. Are you 12r shia going to follow Imam Ali (as) here or your marjas to whom you blindly give your khumms to ?
As for critisizm, a proper Sunni would never say Bibi Ayesha (ra) was correct in her stand against Imam Ali (as). Let me post some Sunnis views on what our view is.
Those who fought against Imam Ali (as) they are regarded as transgressors.
أقوال أئمة أهل السنة والجماعة رضي الله عنهم وتسميتهم البغاة بغاة :
- قال الإمام الحافظ أحمد بن حجر العسقلاني في كتابه تلخيص الحبير ج4\44:
"ثبت أن أهل الجمل وصفين والنهروان بغاة". اهـ.
-Imam Ibn Haj’ar Al-Asqalani in his book “Talkhis AlHabir”, Vol.4 page 44:
“It is established that the people of Jamal, Siffin, and Nahrawan, are transgressors”.
The battel of Siffin was between Ali and Mu’awiya.
- قال الإمام الحافظ أحمد بن حجر العسقلاني في شرح صحيح البخاري ج13ص67:
" وقد ثبت أن من قاتل علياً كانوا بغاة". اهـ.
- Imam Ibn Haj’ar Al-Asqalani in his book : Shar’h Sahih Al-Bukhari, Vol. 13, page 67, said: “It is an established fact that all those who fought against Ali were Transgressors”.
- قال ابن خزيمة فيما روي في" الإعتقاد والهداية" ص248:
" وكل من نازع أميرالمؤمنين علي بن أبي طالب في إمارته فهو باغ , على هذا عهدت مشايخنا وبه قال ابن ادريس-يعني الشافعي-رحمه الله". اهـ.
- Hafeth Ibn Khuzaymah said in his Book “ Al-I’tiqaad”, page 248:
“Everyone who fought Amirul’Muminin Ali bin Abi Taleb during his Khalafah, is a transgressor. On this belief were all our Mashayekh, and this is what ibn Idris (Imam Shafi’iy) said”.
- قال الإمام الحافظ البيهقي رحمه الله تعالى في كتاب مناقب الشافعي ج1ص451:
" قال يحيى: إني نظرت في كتابه –يعني الشافعي- في قتال أهل البغي فإذا به قد احتج من أوله إلى آخره بعلي بن ابي طالب". اهـ. أي بقتال عليّ لأهل البغي.
- Imam Bayhaqi said in his book “manaqeb Al-Shafi’iy”, Vol. 1, page 451:
“ I looked in his book ( Imam Shafi’iy’s book) about fighting Transgressors, and found that he substantiated it all the rules based on Ali bin Abi Taleb”. i.e. Based on his dealings with them.
- قال الإمام الحافظ ابن حجر الهيتمي المكي في فتح الجواد بشرح الإرشاد , باب البغاة وأحكامهم 2\295:
" وقد قال الشافعي رضي الله عنه: أخذت أحكام البغاة من قتال علي لمعاوية". اهـ.
- Imam Ibn Haj’ar Al-Haytami in his book “Fat’h Al-Jawad” Vol.2/295:
“ –Imam- Shafi’iy radiya’Allahu anhu said: I took all the rules of transgressors from Ali fighting Mu’awiyah”.
- قال الامام الحافظ ابن حجر في "الاصابة في تمييز الصحابة" ج3ص508:
"وظهر بقتل عمّار أن الصواب كان مع عليّ واتفق على ذلك أهل السنة". اهـ.
-Imam Ibn Haj’ar in his book “Al-Isabah”, vol.3, page 508, said:
“By killing Ammar, it appeared clearly that the truth was with Ali, and Ahlus Sunnah consent on that”.
- قال الامام العلامة شيخ أهل السنة أبومنصور عبد القاهر البغدادي (تـ429) رحمه الله تعالى وهو من أعلام السلف الصالح في كتابه القيم " الفرق بين الفِرَق" ص302 ناقلاً اجماع أهل السنة والجماعة:
" وقالوا –أي علماء أهل السنة في ذلك الوقت- في صفين: ان الصواب كان مع عليّ رضي الله عنه؛ وان معاوية وأصحابه بغوا عليه" ثم أردف قائلاً: "ولم يكفروا بخطئهم". اهـ.
- Imam Of Ahlus Sunnah, Abu Mansur Abdul Qaher Al-Baghdadi (429 H.) said in his infamous book “Al-Farq baynal Firaq” stating the CONSENSUS ( IJMA) of the Scholars of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama’a:
“They declared in Siffin: that Ali radiya’Allahu anhu, was right, and Mua’wiya and his people transgressed upon him” “ but did not commit Kufr by this mistake”.
- قال شيخنا الحافظ العارف بالله سيدي أبا الفضل عبد الله بن الصدّيق الغماري الحسني –أعلى الله في الفردوس الأعلى درجته- في كتابه خواطر دينية ج 2\17:
" أجمع العلماء على أن معاوية كان باغياً".
- Shaykh Al-Hafeth Abdullah bin Assiddiqq Al-Ghumari, said in his book “ Khawater Diniya”, vol.2 page 17:
“The scholars have a consensus that Mu’awiyah was a transgressor”.
- قال الامام ابن حزم الأندلسي (تـ456) في كتابه "الفِصَل في الملل والأهواء والنِحَل" ج3ص87:
" فإذا قد بطل هذا الأمر وصح أن علياً هو صاحب الحق فالأحاديث التي فيها التزام البيوت وترك القتال إنما هي بلا شك فيمن لم يلح له يقين الحق أين هو؛ وهكذا نقول فإذا تبين الحق فقتال الفئة الباغية فرض بنص القرآن". اهـ. (أي على جميع المسلمين ومن تخلف فهو مخالف لأوامر الله ورسوله).
- Imam Ibn Hazm Al-Andalusi (456H.) in his infamous book “Al-Fisal” Vol.3, page 87:
“Once it became clear that Ali is the one with the truth, then the Ahadith that orders to avoid fighting are for him who has not yet found truth. Hence, once the truth is apparent –to any person- then fighting the Transgressor group is obligatory as commanded by the Qu’ran”.
- قال الامام لسان أهل السنة الناطق العلامة السعد التفتازاني (793هـ) رحمه الله تعالى في كتابه المقاصد –في شرح عقائد أهل السنة والجماعة- الجزء 3\534:
"وأما في حرب الجمل وحرب صفين وحرب الخوارج، فالمصيب عليّ، لما ثبت له من الامامة وظهر من التفاوت، لا كلتا الطائفتين على ماهو رأي المصوبة ولا احداهما من غير تعيين".
- The speaking power of Ahlus Sunnah, Imam Sadduddin At-Taftazani ( 793H.) in his infamous book “ Al-Maqased” in elucidation of the Aqidah of Ahlus Sunnah, Vol. 3, page 534, said:
“ as for the battles of Jam’al, Siffin, and Khawarej, the one on the truth is Ali, as the khilafah was already established for him, and the difference between –him and the other side- appeared. It is not that both are right, and not that neither is right”. i.e. the Sahaba with the leadership of Ali are the ones who are right.
ثم قال شارحاً لحديث النبي عليه وآله السلام لسيدنا عليّ :"إنك تقاتل الناكثين والمارقين والقاسطين".، قال رحمه الله:
"والقاسطون –أي البغاة الظالمون- معاوية وأتباعه الذين اجتمعوا عليه، وعدلوا عن طريق الحق الذي هو بيعة عليّ رضي الله عنه والدخول تحت طاعته".
- In the same book, same page, Allama Sa’d Taftazani said:
“ The Transgressors are Mua’wiyah and his followers who gathered with him, and deviated from the true path which is giving Bay’ah to Ali radiya’Allahu anhu, and obeying him”.
ثم قال رحمه الله عرضاً لما أجمع عليه أهل الحق واستحسنوه 3\534:
"والذي اتفق عليه أهل الحق أن المصيب في جميع ذلك عليّ رضي الله عنه لما ثبت من امامته ببيعة أهل الحل والعقد وظهر من تفاوت إما بينه وبين المخالفين سيما معاوية وأحزابه، وتكاثر الأخبار في كون الحق معه، وما وقع عليه الاتفاق حتى من الأعداء إلى أنه أفضل أهل زمانه، وأنه لا أحق بالامامة منه، والمخالفون له بغاة لخروجهم على الامام الحق".
- Then he concluded Vol. 3, page 534:
“ That what the people of Truth (Ahlul Haqq) have agreed upon that Ali radiya Allahu anhu was righteous in all these events, as is established by his superiority, and differences between him and his opponents, especially Mu’awiyah and his parties. Also due to the large number of narrations pointing that Ali is righteous, so that even his enemies gave in that he is the best of his time, and no one is worthy of Khilafat more than him. And that his opponents are Transgressors, as they opposed the righteous Khalifah”.
ثم انتهى الى القول 3\535: ما نصه:
"ولهذا ذهب الأكثرون إلى أن أول من بغى في الإسلام معاوية".
- Then he finalized the chapter by saying:
“ Therefore most people went to the belief that the first Transgressor in Islam is Mu’awiyah”.
- قال العلامة الفاخوري رحمه الله في كتابه تحفة الأنام في تاريخ الاسلام ص67:
"على أن معشر اهل الحق من اهل السنة والجماعة يعتقدون أن معاوية كان مخطئاً، بغى على الإمام الحق علي بن أبي طالب لسبق البيعة والخلافة له رضي الله عنه، وهو مصيب بمحاربة معاوية وأصحابه بحكم قتال أهل البغي من المسلمين، ولذا لم يعاملهم معاملة المرتدين ولاالكافرين، وأن عائشة وطلحة والزبير رضي الله عنهم قد رجعوا عن خطئهم بخروجهم في وقعة الجمل على أمير المؤمنين، وقد ندموا على خروجهم متأسفين، والندم توبة من الخطيئة، فاتبع الحق ولاتتبع الهوى فيضلك عن سبيل الله والله أعلم". اهـ.
- Allama Al-Fakhouri, the grand Shafi’iy Mufti of Beirut ( rahmatullahi alayhi) said in his book “ Tarikh al-islam” ( History of Islam), page 67:
“ The people of righteousness ( Ahlul Haqq) of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jam’a believe that Mu’awiyah was mistaken, transgressed on the righteous Khalifah Ali bin Abi Taleb. As he had the Bay’ah and Khilafah, radiya’Allahu anhu. And that he –Ali- is righteous in fighting Mu’awiyah and his companions based on the rules of Transgressors of Muslims, hence, he did not treat them as Kuffar (blasphemers) nor rejectors. And that Aisha, Talha and Zubair, radiya’Allahu anhum, all repented for their mistake to go to the battle of Jamal, and they regretted it sorrowfully. Regret is a sign of –sincere- repentance, so follow the truth not your desires, otherwise you will deviate from the path of Allah, and Allah knows best”.
As history shows Bibi Ayesha (ra), Talha (ra) and Zubair (ra) repented after they transgressed. Also, there is a verse in the Quran which asks for sinners to be forgiven.
40:7. Those (angels) who bear the Throne (of Allah) and those around it glorify the praises of their Lord, and believe in Him, and ask forgiveness for those who believe (in the Oneness of Allah) (saying): "Our Lord! You comprehend all things in mercy and knowledge, so forgive those who repent and follow Your Way, and save them from the torment of the blazing Fire! (al Quran)
When I showed this evidence to a 12r shia he reponsded by saying that Imam Ali (as) was under Taqiyah, and this is why he didn't curse anyone. Well if that's the case then why did the Imam Ali (as) curse Muawiyah in the Du'a of Qunut ? The Du'a of Qunoot is found in Tabari, ibn Athir's and other references. Also its found in Musnad Zayd which is a Zaydi reference. Imam Ali (as) responded to Muawiyah differently. However, for Bibi Ayesha (ra) he gave her full respect till the end. He did this with sincerity and not taqiyah as the 12rs like to assume.
Also there are some 12r scholars who condemn any form of character assissination against Bibi Ayesha (ra). Here is what Ayatollah Fadhlallah says.
Sayed Fadhlallah says :
"Some people curse some of the Messenger's wives who might have committed some mistakes, but this does not mean that we should curse them, for we should, as one of our old scholar, Sayyed Mohammed Baqir Hujatulislam, says , treat them well, in honour of the one they are linked to."
Friday Sermon- 04/05/2007
Also, Syed Jan Ali Kazmi clip is below where he points our how the extreme 12rs do open tabarra against Bibi Aisyah (ra).
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