Imam Ali (as) is Called a Beast in Tafsir al Qummi

Tafsir Qummi:

Ubayy has narrated from Ibne Abu Umair from Abu Basir from Imam Ja’far Sadiq (a.s.) that he said:
"Once the Messenger of Allah (s.a.w.s.) came to Amirul Momineen (a.s.)while the latter was asleep in the mosque; he had made a heap of sand andrested his head on it. The Holy Prophet (s.a.w.s.) shook his leg and said: "O  Daabbatullaah!  Get up!" A companion who witnessed this asked, "OMessenger of Allah (s.a.w.s.)! Shall we address each other with this name?"He replied, "No, by Allah it is restricted only for him (Ali) and he is the
Daabba
that Allah has mentioned in His book…"
　
And when the word shall come to pass against them, We shall bring forth for them a creature from the earth that shall talk to them, because people did not believe in Our communications." (Surah Naml 27:82)
Then the Messenger of Allah (s.a.w.s.) said: O Ali, in the last period of time the Almighty Allah will bring you out in the best form and you will behaving a seal with which you will mark your enemies.A person asked Imam Ja’far Sadiq (a.s.): "But the Sunni say that in thisverse the word of ‘talk to them, implies injuring?"Imam (a.s.) replied: May Allah send them to Hell, it is not like that, itmeans talking and this statement of the Almighty Allah is an evidence for Rajat

Not only is Imam Ali (as) called a Beast, but Sunni are cursed for not agreeing

Who Will Rule After the 12th Imam ?

According to one view its the 12 Mahdis and another view its Imam Hussain (as) followed by Imam Ali (as). From the Sunni ahadith after Imam Mahdi (as) its Prophet Isa (as) who will rule for 40 years followed by al Qatani.

Ikmaaluddin:

Daqqaq has narrated from Asadi from Nakhai from Naufalifrom Ali Ibne Abi Hamza from Abu Basir that he asked Imam Ja’far Sadiq (a.s.):

“O son of Allah’s Messenger, I have heard from your respected father that there will be twelve Mahdis after Imam Qaim (a.s.)?Imam (a.s.) replied: Yes, he had said twelve Mahdis and not twelveImams, but they would be from our Shia and they would invite people to our Wilayat and recognition of our rights.”

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Ghaibat Tusi:



Muhammad Himyari has narrated from his father fromMuhammad bin Abdul Hamid and Muhammad bin Isa from Muhammad bin Fudailfrom Abu Hamza from Imam Ja’far Sadiq (a.s.) a lengthy report, in which he said:

“O Abu Hamza, after Imam Qaim (a.s.) there will be twelve Mahdis fromus, the descendants of Imam Husain (a.s.).”


Ghaibat Tusi:



Fazal has narrated from Ibne Mahbub from Amr bin AbuMiqdam from Jabir Jofi that he heard Imam Muhammad Baqir (a.s.) say:



“By Allah, after Imam Qaim (a.s.) a person from us, Ahle Bayt (a.s.) willruler for 309 years.I said: When will this be?He said: After Imam Qaim (a.s.).I asked: For how many years will Imam Qaim rule on the earth after reappearance?He replied: Nineteen years from his reappearance to his death.I said: Would there will be a great confusion after that?He replied: Yes, for fifty years. Then Muntasir will do Rajat and he willkill his enemies and imprison them. After that Saffah will rise up.”


Irshad:

There will be no kingdom after the rule of Imam Qaim (a.s.)except that there is a narration of one under the control of his sons, if Allahwishes. However there is no positive assertion and proof for that. Themajority of reports maintain that the Mahdi of the community will not departexcept forty days before Qiyamat, after which confusion will reign supremeand the dead will emerge from the graves and Qiyamat shall be establishedfor Reckoning and Punishment. Note: Allamah Tabarsi (r.a.) has written in

Elamul Wara

that it ismentioned in authentic reports that there will be no rule of anyone after therule of Imam Qaim and only his sons will be his successors, if Allah wills.And it is mentioned in most traditions that Imam Qaim (a.s.) will pass awayonly forty days before Qiyamat during which the dead will emerge from the graves and the Qiyamat will be established and Allah knows best.



Tafsir Ayyashi:

It is narrated from Jabir that he said: I heard ImamMuhammad Baqir (a.s.) say:

“By Allah, after the death of Imam Qaim (a.s.) a person from us AhleBayt (a.s.) will rule for 309 years.”I asked: When will this be?He replied: After the passing away of Imam Qaim (a.s.).I asked: For how many years will Imam Qaim rule on the earth after reappearance?He replied: Nineteen years from his reappearance to his death.I said: Would there will be a great confusion after that?He replied: Yes, for fifty years. Then Muntasir will do Rajat and he will
kill his enemies and imprison them till people will begin to say that if he had been from the progeny of the prophets, he would not have shed so much blood. And all the people of the world will unite against him and attack himand he will seek refuge in Kaaba. He will have to face severe calamities andhe will be killed in this process. After his killing, Saffah will rise up in furyand eliminate all our enemies.And O Jabir, do you know who Muntasir and Saffah are? Muntasir is Husain bin Ali (a.s.) and Saffah means Ali Ibne Abi Talib (a.s.).”          

Are Sunnis Really Anti-Shia ?

The 12er keep spreading false propaganda that Sunnis hate them only because they love Ahlul Bayt (as).

Here is a clip where Sunnis are praying with Zaydi shia.


Now a 12er might say the Zaydis are like Sunni. This is not the case

The Zaydis have shia views such as they believe Imam Ali (as) should have been the first calipah and that Abi Bakr (ra) and Umar (ra) sinned by not allowing this.

They don't see Uthman (ra) to be among the top saleeheen

They oppose Abu Hurarya (ra).

They do takfir against Muawiyah, Amr bin Aas,Al-Mugirah bin Shu’bah, Samurah bin Jindub, Yazid and Marwaan.


Also, in creed they are close to Mutazila.

The 12th Imam Given the title of Fleeing

Among the most favorite attacks done by the dozeners is to attack the sahaba by falsely accusing them of running away in battles. However, in the 12er shia books the 12th imam is known with the title of fleeing.

Ikmaaluddin: It is narrated from Ibne Musa from Asadi from Saad fromMuhammad bin Abdul Hamid and Abdus Samad bin Muhammad together from Hannan bin Sudair from Ali bin Hazur from Ibne Nubatah that he said: I heardAmirul Momineen (a.s.) say: “The Master of this Affair is the runaway, the fugitive, the loner and the forlorn.”

Ikmaaluddin: Shaykh Saduq has narrated from his father from Muhammad bin Yahya Attar from Ja’far bin Muhammad bin Malik from Hamadan bin Mansur from Saad bin Muhammad from Isa Khashshab that he said: I said to Husain Ibne Ali (a.s.), “Are you the Awaited Patron of thisEnterprise?” He said: “No, rather, the Patron of this Enterprise is the runaway, fugitive, the son of a non-avenged father, called by the patronymic of his uncle. He will put his sword on his shoulder for eight months.”

Both ahadith taken from Kitab al Ghaiba. Now the 12ers might say these are weak. Okay fine they are weak. However, their understanding of the sahaba's participation in the battles is also weak.
If they want to play with the interpretations I too can ask how  if the 12th imam did not run away how did he manage to escape from his enemies ?

Not Only Bukhari But Al Kulayani Also Accused the Prophet Making an Error in Namaz

The 12ers love to mock the Sunnis  for the ahadith in Bukhari which alleges that the Prophet made a mistake in namaz. Of course they are right to correct us on this one, but their books are also not innocent of this either. Since Kuylani and Majalisi accepted this ahadith why isn't' the anger also geared at them ?


الكليني عن محمد بن يحيى ، عن أحمد بن محمد بن عيسى عن عثمان بن عيسى عن سماعة بن مهران قال : قال أبو عبد الله عليه السلام : من حفظ سهوه فأتمه فليس عليه سجدتا السهو ، فإن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم صلى بالناس والظهر ركعتين ثم سها فسلم ، فقال له ذو الشمالين : يا رسول الله أنزل في الصلاة شيء ؟ فقال وما ذلك ؟ فقال : إنما صليت ركعتين ، فقال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم : أتقولون مثل قوله ؟ قالوا : نعم فقام رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم فأتم بها الصلاة وسجد بهم سجدتي السهو قال : قلت : أرأيت من صلى ركعتين وظن أنهما أربعاً فسلم وانصرف ثم ذكر بعدما ذهب أنه صلى ركعتين ، قال : يستقبل الصلاة من أولها ، فقال : قلت : فما بال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم لم يستقبل الصلاة وإنما أتم بهم ما بقي من صلاته ؟ فقال : أن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم لم يبرح من مجلسه ، فإن كان لم يبرح من مجلسه فليتم ما نقص من صلاته إذا كان قد حفظ الركعتين الأوليتين A hadith in Al Kafi suggesting that the Prophet (saww) prayed 2 rakats in salat instead of 4 due to sahww. Read it yourself if you want a better understanding: Al Kafi Volume 3 Page 355 and Allamah Majlisi grading this as muwaththaqq (trustworthy)

12er Shia Mahdi Will Not Behave Like the RasoolAllah (pbuh)

I will post the narrations and thanks to a 12er shia brother I will post how these traditions are weak in grading. I'm glad these traditions are weak. On the contrary, many 12er shias do believe the 11 imams did taqiyyah and the 12th imam will not. I wonder how he is going to bring the utopia that they always talk about since he will not do taqiyyah. I will also post a clip of the 12er shia concept of rajah in the end.

Ali bin al-Husayn narrated from Muhammad bin Yahya al-Attar from Muhammad bin Hassaan ar-Razifrom Muhammad bin Ali al-Kufi from Ahmad binMuhammad bin Abu Nasr from Abdullah bin Bukayr from his father that Zurara had said to Abu Ja'far Muhammadbin Ali al-Baqir (s):“I want you to mention to me the name of one of the virtuous men-I meant al-Qa'im (s).”He said: “His name is like mine.”I said: “Will he act like Muhammad (s)?”He said: “O Zurara, how far! He will not act as the Prophet (s) has acted.”I asked: “May I die for you! Why not?” He said: “The Prophet (s) has acted leniently towards his umma. He has entreated people kindly whereas al-Qa'im (s) will use his sword with them. He has been ordered by the book, which is with him, to do so. He will kill (bad) people without forgiving anyone. Woe unto whoever opposes him then. Iqd ad-Durar p.226, Ithbat al-Hudat , vol.3 p.539, Hilyatul Abrar , vol.2 p.628, Biharul Anwar , vol.52 p.353, Muntakhab al- Athar p.302, Mo’jam, Ahadeeth al-Imam al-Mahdi, vol.3 p.303.

Muhammad bin Hassaan ar-Razi

محمد بن حَسّان الرّازيّ: قال النجاشي: «أبو عبد الله الزَّيْنَبِي (الزبيبي)، يعرف و ينكر، بين بين، يروي عن الضعفاء كثيراً، له كتب» قال ابن الغضائري: «ضعيف»

an-Najashi said: Abu Abdallah al-Zaynabi, known and rejected, in the middle, he narrates from the Dhuafa alot, he has books, Ibn Ghadhairi said: Dhaif.


Muhammad bin Ali al-Kufi

محمد بن علي بن إبراهيم بن موسى: قال النجاشي: «أبو جعفر القرشي، مولاهم صيرفي ... كان يلقّب أبا سُمينة، ضعيف جداً، فاسد الاعتقاد، لا يعتمد في شيء ... »

an-Najashi said: Abu Ja'far al-Qarashi, client, as-Sayrafi, he was titled Abu Samina, very weak, corrupt in belief, he is not to be depended upon in anything.


Ahmad bin Muhammad bin Sa'eed bin Oqda narrated from Ali bin al-Hasan from Muhammad bin Khalid from Tha’laba bin Maymoon that al-Hasan bin Haroon had said:Once I was sitting with Abu Abdullah as-Sadiq (s) whenal-Mu’alla bin Khunays asked him: “Will al-Qa'im (s),when he appears, act unlike the way, in which Ali (s)has acted?”He said: “Yes, he will. Ali has acted with leniency andforgiving because he has known that his Shia are goingto be controlled after him. But al-Qa'im (s), whenappears, will kill and capture because he knows that hisShia will not be defeated after him forever.”

Biharul Anwar , vol.52 p.353,
Hilyatul Abrar , vol.2 p.628.


Hasan bin al-Harun is Majhul.

Ali bin al-Husayn narrated from Muhammad bin Yahya al-Attar from Muhammad bin Hassaan ar-Razifrom Muhammad bin Ali al-Kufi from Ahmad binMuhammad bin Abu Nasr from al-Ala’ fro Muhammad binMuslim that Abu Ja'far al-Baqir (s) had said:“If people know what al-Qa'im (s) will do when heappears, most of them will wish he would not appear.He kills great numbers of people. He begins with thepeople of Quraysh. He kills much many of them untilmany people say: He is not from Muhammad’s progeny. If he is from Muhammad’s progeny, he will be merciful!”

Iqd ad-Durar p.227,
Ithbat al-Hudat , vol.3 p.539,
Hilyatul Abrar , vol.2 p.629,
Biharul Anwar , vol.52 p.354,
BisharatulIslam p.263,
Mo’jam Ahadeeth al-Imam al-Mahdi , vol.3 p.304.

Muhammad bin Hassaan ar-Razi and Muhammad bin Ali al-Kufi already referred to above.

 

Ali bin al-Husayn narrated from Ahmad binMuhammad bin Abu Nasr from Aasim bin Hameed al-Hannat from Abu Baseer that Abu Ja'far al-Baqir (s) had said:

“Al-Qa'im will rise with a new task, new principles andnew judgements. He will be severe with the Arabs. Hewill do not but killing. He will not forgive anyone and hewill not care for any blame because he acts for the sakeof Allah.”
Ithbat al-Hudat , vol.3 p.540,
Biharul Anwar , vol.52 p.354,
Mo’jam Ahadeeth al-Imam al-Mahdi, vol.3 p.253

There are two Wasait between Ali bin al-Husayn and Ahmad bin Muhammad bin Abi Nasr, and they are Muhammad bin Hassan ar-Razi and Muhammad bin Ali al- previously mentioned.

Ahmad bin Muhammad bin Sa'eed narrated from Alibin al-Hasan at-Taymali from his father from al-Hasan bin Ali bin Yousuf and Muhammad bin Ali al-Kufi fromSa’dan bin Muslim from some of his companions that Abu Abdullah as-Sadiq (s) had said:“While a man is behind al-Qa'im (s) ordering and forbidding, he (al-Qa'im) will say: Turn him! They turn him to be before al-Qa'im (s), who will order to kill him. Then everything in the world will fear him.”
Ithbat al-Hudat , vol.3 p.541,
Biharul Anwar, vol.52 p.355,
Mo’jam Ahadeeth al-Imam al-Mahdi, vol.4 p.41.

As though 'from his father' is an addition, since Ali bin al-Hasan does narrate from al-Hasan bin Ali bin Yusuf directly.

Since Muhammad bin Ali al-Kufi is Maqrun with al-Hasan bin Ali bin Yusuf then he does not harm the narration,

but -

Sa'dan bin Muslim is Majhul, and he is narrating from uknown companions.

Thus it is Mursal.

 

Ali bin Ahmad al-Bandaneeji narrated fromObaydillah bin Musa al-Alawi from Ahmad binMuhammad bin Khalid from his father from Sa’dan binMuslim from Hisham bin Salim that Abu Abdullah as-Sadiq (s) had said:“As a man is behind al-Qa'im ordering and forbidding,he (al-Qa'im) will order that he is to be killed. Then everything in the world will fear him.” (Ibid)

Ali bin Ahmad al-Bandaneeji is Dhaif to Allamah, and both Ubaydullah bin Musa al-Alawi and Sa'dan bin Muslim are Majhul.          

As much as the 12er shia brother put his effort to weaken each tradition, the sad part is people like him are not among the popular ones who lead their majalis. Instead we have presentations like the one below.
 

 

Imams Never Destined to Rule

The Dozeners believe that only the 12 imams are worthy of handing the Islamic caliphate. In the comment below the a 12er shia site says that even among the Ahlul Bayt (as) only a dozen Imams are entitled as calipahs.

2. When Shi'as say that the household of the Prophet (S.A.W.) are more worthy of being the caliphs, they mean only the Twelve Imams and nobody else. http://www.al-islam.org/al-rida/1-4.htm

So when al Mamoon came in power he appointed Imam Ali Al Rida (as) as his successor. The imam refused, and Al Mamoon forced the imam into it.

Al-Irshad narrates that al-Mamoon discussed the subject of regency with al-Rida (A.S.), saying, "I have decided that you should be my successor." The Imam said: "Exempt me from that, O commander of the faithful, for I have neither the ability nor the strength for that." He said: "I have decided that you should be my successor." The Imam said: "Exempt me from that, O commander of the faithful." Al-Mamoon responded with a statement which was more of a threat than anything else; he said to him: "Umer ibn al-Khattab entrusted six persons to consult regarding caliphate, one of them was your grandfather Ali ibn Abu Talib (A.S.), and he preconditioned that anyone who went against their decision should be executed; therefore, you will have to accept what I have decreed for you, for I see no way that I can ever change my mind." http://www.al-islam.org/al-rida/1-4.htm

Al Mamoon tries his best however, the Imam says that he isn't destined for it.

"When al-Rida (A.S.) was seated during the regency celebration, with the orators and poets surrounding him and the flags fanning him, one individual who was present there and then said, `I was close to him that day, and he looked at me with an optimistic smile on his face regarding the event, and he beckoned for me to come close. When I did, he told me while nobody except me could hear him: `Do not let this excite you, and do not be overly optimistic, for it would never materialize. http://www.al-islam.org/al-rida/1-4.htm

So now if we go through the lives of these imams none of them are destined to rule . So now what the point of believing that till of the day of judgement there will be only a dozen imams who have the legitimacy of ruling ? Further the Imams say the Shias of the time were unreliable.

Ghaibat Nomani: It is narrated from Ali bin Ahmad from Ubaidullah binMusa Alawi from Muhammad bin Ahmad Qalanasi from Ali bin Husain from Abbas bin Aamir from Musa bin Hilal from Abdullah Ibne Ata that he said: I went to Hajj from Wasit and came to Imam Muhammad Baqir (a.s.). Heasked me about the people and prices. I said: "I left the people behind whiletheir necks were stretched towards you. Should you rise, the masses willfollow you." "O son of Ata," said the Imam, "you have started lending your ears to the fools. By Allah, I am not your Awaited Patron. Every man of us pointed by fingers or signaled by eyebrows will be murdered or will die in the bed." I said: "And what is dying in the bed?" "He dies by rage in his bed untilAllah sends the one whose birth is unbeknownst." "And who is the one whose birth will be unbeknownst?" The Imam replied, "Look who is the one whom people do not know whether he is born or not, he is your Awaited Patron."

Muhammad ibn al-Hassan and Ali ibn Muhammad ibn Bandar have narrated from Ibrahim ibn Ishaq from ‘Abd Allah ibn Hammad al-Ansari from Sadir al- Sayrafi who has said the following: “Once I went in the presence of abu ‘Abd Allah, recipient of divine supreme covenant, and said, ‘By Allah, it is your obligation not to sit (without proclaiming your leadership).’ The Imam asked, ‘Why O Sadir?’ I said, ‘Because your friends, Shi’a (followers) and supporters are so many. By Allah, were Amir al-Mu’minin (Ali ibn abu Talib), recipient of divine supreme covenant, to have that many Shi’a (followers) as your Shi’a, friends and supporters, no one of the tribe of Tamim or ‘Ady could dare to disturb him.’ The Imam said, ‘O Sadir, how many do you think they are?’ I said, ‘One hundred thousand.’ The Imam said, ‘One hundred thousand!’ I said, ‘Yes, in fact, they are up to two hundred thousand, and I said, ‘Half of the world (population) is your Shi’a.’ “The narrator has said that the Imam remained calm and then said, ‘Is it possible to come with us to Yanbu’?’ I said, ‘It is fine with me.’ He then asked to bring a donkey and a mule already saddled. I hurried to ride the donkey and he said, ‘O Sadir, can you consider to allow me ride the donkey?’ I said, ‘The mule is more beautiful and noble.’ He said, ‘The donkey is friendlier for me.’ I then dismounted and he rode the donkey and I rode the mule. We traveled until it was time for prayer. He said, ‘O Sadir, dismount and we should pray.’ Then he said, ‘This ground is soft, prayer is not permissible here.’ We moved to a red ground and he looked to a boy who shepherded goats. He said, ‘O Sadir, were I to have as many Shi’a (followers) as the number of these goats, then it would not have been permissible for me to sit (without proclaiming my leadership).’ We dismounted and prayed. When we finished the prayer I turned to the goats and counted them. There were seventeen heads of goats in the flock.’” (al-Kafi H 2311, CH 96, h 4)

The Four Reasons Why The 12th Imam Disappeared

According to  a 12er shia website here are the reasons:
1) He unlike the previous 11 Imams did not want to give Bayah to the rulers
2) To test the Dozeners
3) Fear of his Death
4) The hypocrisy of the Dozeners


Now one might think that I am attacking the Dozeners which such detial. However, I am only brining a reference from their own "books/sources/website/khumms funded material.



Reasons for the Occultation of Imam Mahdi (A.S.)
 
1. Free from Allegiance of Every Tyrant
Amirul Momineen Alt (A.S.) said,
"Certainly', when the Qaem from among us shall arise, he will not have the allegience of any one upon his neck. It is for this reason that his birth is secret and his person is in Ghaibat."
(Kamaaluddin Vol.1. Pg.303)
It must be mentioned that all of our Imams had to pledge allegience to every tyrant ruler except for a short period during the rule of Umar ibne Abdul Aziz. This was because, on the face of it, it would seem that they are not against the ruler, In this way they could protect Islam. In the absence of popular support, the Imams were left alone and thus they entered into an understanding with the rulers. Thus even Imam Husain (A.S.) for a particular period did not find it necessary to revolt against the regime of Muawiya.
In this regard Hazrat Mahdi (A.S.) says:
"Verily each of my ancestors had the oath of allegience, upon their necks, of their contemporary tyrant rulers. But I will reappear at such a time that I will not have any tyrant's allegience upon my neck."
(Ghaibat Tusi Pg.292, Kamaaluddin VoL2. Pg.485)
2. Test Of The People
Imam al Kazim (A.S.) said,
"My son ! when the fifth descendant of the seventh of the Imams is not visible to you ! It is when Allah will test your belief. Ghaibat is inevitable for the Master of this affair. Till the time when the religion is completely transformed, and only a few people will have belief in him. My son ! That Ghaibat, It is a
trial through which Allah, the Almighty tests His servants."
(Ghaibat-e-Toosi Pg.166 & 337. Al Kafi vol.1 Pg.336. Kamaaluddin vol.2 Pg.359 and 360. Kifayatul Asar Pg.264-265)
3. Fear of the Enemy
Imam Musa al-Kazim (A.S.) said,
"The Qaem is the one who will purify the earth from the enemies of Allah, the High and the Mighty. And he will fill the earth will justice and equity just as it is filled with injustice and tyranny. He is the fifth of my descendants. He will go into occultation due to the fear of his own (life)."
(Kamaaluddin vol.2 Pg.361. Kifayatul Asar Pg.265-266)
According to common sense it is necessary for man not to throw away his precious life without a legitimate aim. Thus, the prophets (A.S.) and the Imams (A.S.) have taught the people that it is their duty to protect their life under every circumstance and should never put their life in danger. Therefore it is the duty of the last of these exalted personalities to protect himself till the time of his reappearance when he will establish the new world order.
4. Weakness and Lack of Co-operation of the People.
Imam Mahdi (A.S.) said.
"If our shias; may Allah help them in His obedience; would have fulfilled their covenant with united hearts then there would have. been no delay in our meeting, and they would have been blessed with our visitation at the earliest, along with the recognition of truth and confirmation of our rights."
(Al Ihtejaj vol.2 Pg.602)
http://www.imamreza.net/eng/imamreza.php?print=4589

Also here are some more ahadith from Bihar al Anwar which state the same reasons.

Ghaibat Nomani:
It is narrated from Ahmad bin Idris from Ibne Qutaibahfrom Ibne Shazan from Ahmad bin Abi Nasr Bazanti that he said: Imam Musa Kazim(a.s.) said:
“By Allah, that to which you look forward to, will not come about exceptafter you are distinguished and you are subjected to a test till except for a few,none of you Shia will remain… then he recited the following verses:
“What! do you think that you will be left alone while Allah has not yet known those of you who have struggled hard and have not taken anyone asan adherent besides Allah and His Apostle and the believers…” (SurahTaubah 9:16)


Shaykh Saduq  has narrated from his father from Himyari from his chains of narrators directly from Ali bin Yaqtin that he said:

I asked Imam Musa Kazim (a.s.): “How come the predictions about youare never fulfilled whereas all the predictions about your opponents are fulfilled?”He said: “The predictions about our enemies, since they are true they arefulfilled. And with regard to us it is not predictions; on the contrary they are your aspirations and hopes. Thus their result is obvious.”          

On Eligibility For The Caliphate

The Prophet is the trustee of Allah's revelation, the Last of His Prophets. the giver of tidings of His mercy and the warner for His chastisement.

O' people. the most rightful of all persons for this matter (namely the caliphate) is he who is most competent among them to maintain it, and he who knows best Allah's commands about it. If any mischief is created by a mischief-monger, he will be called upon to repent. If he refuses. he will be fought. By my life, [1] if the question of Imamah was not to be decided unless all the people were present, then there would be no such case. But those who agreed about it imposed the decision on those who were absent, so much so that he who was present could not dissent and the one who was absent could not choose (any one else). Know that I shall fight two persons - one who claims what is not his and the other who ignores what is obligatory upon him. (Nahj Al Balagha, Sermon 127)

According to the 12er shia the mischief-mongers are Abi Bakr (ra) and Umar (ra) for what they did during saqifa. So again why didn't Imam Ali (as) pull out his sword ?         

Here is a reply I got a from a Dozener Shia.

@Abdaal

Why didn't Haroon a.s the lion of Allah, Nabi, Rasul, Imam, Caliph of the time, fight Samiri and co, when He a.s saw them making a deity other than Allah swt?

What is worse in the eyes of sunnis Hazrat Haroon a.s not fight Samiri and co when they were doing greatest sin and being persistent for some time or Imam Ali a.s not fighting the so called caiph of the time because they didn't let Him a.s rule etc?            

To me its foolish to apply this analogy to Saqifa because Imam Ali (as) himself disassociates from a Yahoodi  who uses the exact same analogical reasoning as the Dozener Shias.




In fact, if there is any comparison then I would apply this analogical reasoning to arbitration which occurred in Siffin between Imam Ali's (as) camp and Muawiyah's camp. According to Allama ibn Abil Hadid and  Shaykh Muhammad Abdo the commanders of Imam Ali's (as) camp were bribed which caused them to backstab Imam Ali (as). This is what the Bani Israel did when they worshiped a calf. The golden cow represents materialism and the dunya, and they fell into the trap.

Sayyidi Shaykh Muhammad bin Yahya On Shaykh Al-Buti.

" Yesterday we heard about the martyrdom of our Shaykh and Ustadh, Sayyidi Al-Allama Muhammad Sa’i...d Al-Buti, may Allah Ta’ala accept him among the Shuhada in the highest levels of Jannah. Amin.
He was martyred by a suicide bomber right in his Masjid where he lectured for decades now, coincidently named: Masjid Al-Iman. He was martyred in the middle of his regular Qur’anic Tafsir Halaqah. But neither the sanctity of the House of Allah nor the Book of Allah mattered to those extremists who eagerly wanted to silence him, and when they failed to academically, textually, spiritually, and humanly refute him, then instead of accepting the difference in views, felt the need to blow him up and shatter his honorable body into pieces, and shed his honorable blood to mix with the pages of the Holy Book he was teaching with the Holy Masjid soil and the multitudes of Angles filling everything in between. Silent no more should we be to violent extremism and to the ideology of bloodshed to settle differences. We have been screaming for decades now, that extremism, violence and intolerance is a satanic book not a sacred book. It is an evil mixed with a sick neo-Jahili, neo-Khariji, and maybe psychological complexes, but sanitized by shiny religious rhetoric. Extremism, violence, and intolerance which leads to intellectual terrorism followed by actual terrorism is not, despite its claim, connected to the Book or Sunnah. Nothing will stop intellectual terrorists from carrying out terrorism, not the Book, nor the Sunnah, nor any sound logic, or any human value for that. The Ummah needs to go back to the Qur’an and Sunnah and their unconditional compassion, tolerance, and freedom. Fighting for freedom does not mean in anyway killing those who peacefully speak their view and understanding of the Book and Sunnah.
This old Shaykh, who did not only do Tarbiyah of the nowadays preachers and scholars, but did Tarbiyah of an Ummah. Tarbiyah is not just teaching and transmitting knowledge. But even in that field, you can hardly see one Sunni preacher or scholar in the past 30 or so years who was not academically or spiritually influenced by Shaykh Muhammad Sa’id, if not a student of his in one way or another. This is pretty much throughout the Muslim world. The Ash’ari of the time and the Ghazzali of the Era, were not inflammatory titles, like many nowadays, but a closer examination of a profound scholarship and an encyclopedic knowledge that a lot of scholars felt towards Shaykh Muhammad Sa’id, Rahimahu’Allahu Ta’ala. A Mutakallem of the highest caliber, a fine Usuli rare to come by, a Sufi of the pious predecessor’s style who feared the big claims/titles and entourages of the nowadays Sufi claimers, a Faqeeh of vast knowledge that made him tolerate differences and understand other views, and a human being who feared shedding blood and afforded every human being regardless of background with dignity and respect. He spent most of his 84 years of life defending Islam and its Messenger, sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi wa sallam, articulating the Islamic principles, spreading the Sunnah, and refuting those who slandered Islam and its facts. An ocean of knowledge, humility, and spirituality that unconditionally gave without anticipation of recognition by others, nor did he seek to build a personal empire of name and fame, but consistently tried to avoid that at any cost all the time. But all that was not enough for some to spare him from vile slander, intellectual terrorism, followed by blowing up a bomb in the Masjid during a Qur’anic Tafsir session. Freedom to some means enslavement to different set of masters only. Sunnah means the understanding of their Shuyukh only, irrespective of the actual state of the sacred Texts, and justice means slandering, inciting hate and violence, naturally followed by killing all those who dare to disagree.
This pattern isn’t new in our history. Sanitizing political crimes with religious rhetoric is something we saw from most if not all non-righteous political rulers or periods in our “Islamic” History. Intolerance followed by intellectually terrorizing the opponent through slandering and demonization, both of which pave the way to actually carry out violence and terrorism acts. To make it all worse, such violence and terrorism acts had to be sanitized by religious rhetoric to twist evil acts -in a very sick way- into “righteous” ones. Such pattern was not limited to ruling governments at that time only, but some radical religious groups from all sects carried out many acts of intellectual terrorism and actual acts of terror, all in the name of the religion. The target was never the perceived enemy of Muslims at that time, not that such a deed would be endorsed. Their target was not the tyrants who ruled the Muslim world for centuries, nor the oppressors who became more or less like Pharaohs’ on earth, but their target was always the Muslim scholars who disagree with them. Their true enemy is not atheism, blasphemy (Kufr), unjust rulers, or oppressors. But their enemy is all Muslims who disagree with them in understanding the texts of the Book and Authentic Sunnah. This kind of extremism in the new age is not limited to one sect versus another, and it is very much alive and well today. It replaced the Qur’an and Authentic Sunnah’s texts as a reference and a standard, to their own figures statements and understandings. The Divine texts are inclusive and contain unconditional compassion and mercy, but human statements seem to lack that infinite and unconditional compassion, love and mercy.
Shaykh Muhammad Sa’id was not infallible, for the last infallible in our belief is Sayyiduna Rasoolul’Allah, sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi wa sallam, but he never taught that unity meant conformity. He always mentioned that it is okay to look at one thing (revealed text) and see it in two different ways. “Tafkir” instead of “Takfir” was always a foundation for the honorable Shaykh to articulate the differences with others. Today, with the microphones (literally and metaphorically) and platforms being limited to certain views only, big titles and grand claims being custom made and marketed, and more ideological walls of hate erected under the banner of love, the world is undergoing rapid radicalization. This is not limited to Muslims with their various sects only. There is an urgent need for all groups and sects to revive “self-criticism”, stand corrected, and return to the encompassing mercy and the fountain of love in the Qur’an and Authentic Sunnah. It is important NOT to erect idols of people we love and adore whether they’ve passed or still alive, and similarly it is important NOT to erect idols of a limited, non-definitive, and subjective understanding of the Sacred Texts. An understanding of the Sacred Texts or scriptures that lacks unconditional compassion is illegitimate, textually and logically. I guess before all, we need to re-instate the urgent need to unite around the texts of the Qur’an and authentic Sunnah, for it seems as this very fundamental principal is in jeopardy.
Sayyiduna Muhammad, sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi wa sallam, emerged as the Arabic voice denouncing the old Arab ways, enduring extreme persecution from his own people. But by endangering himself, he gave us all one of the most precious monotheistic gifts: the duty of collective self-criticism. Speaking the truth though it be against yourself. Today, if we do not revive this concept, we will risk a profound cultish mentality and behavior taking over our youth from Jakarta to Morocco and everything in between.
The challenge we face in our time is not as much the Sufi-Salafi debate, not even the Sunni-Shi’i irreconcilable differences, but actually more along the line of silent but progressive withdraw out of religiosity as a whole. Islam came to give people life. All people. Regardless of background. Islam did not come to take life away from people. Islam came to offer all people hope, growth and opportunity, regardless whether people believed in it or not. But Shaykh Muhammad Sa’id was ahead of his time in that. Read, if you will, “Kubra Al-Yaqiniyyat Al-Kawniyyah”, and read if you will “ Fiqh-u-Seerah”, and read and read and read…they are not books compiled by “copy and paste” from here and there, but actual masterpieces of thought and thought provoking analysis that not many profound scholars cannot begin to construct. Those very books kept many young people within the folds of Islam, and this is a fact. “Kubral Yaqiniyyat” cleared many doubts many university students had about Allah Ta’ala, His Existence, and Unique Attributes. “Fiqh-u-Sunnah” re-affirmed the faith in the Prophet, sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi wa sallam, in many minds where doubt seeped in due to incomplete or partial understanding. The list goes on.
Our scholars, not just our “preachers”, along with the youths are the most valuable asset of this Ummah. None of them is perfect by themselves, but when they are united they become close to it. The Ummah has lots of preachers but not many scholars today, and the youths have a duty to search for the truth wherever it is, question truths offered to them, and check and reference every statement against the Qur’anic and Sunnah texts. Then disagree if so it is in understandings, but observe the Qur’an and Sunnah’s ethics of disagreements when doing so. Let the minds fight, but keep the hearts in love. The youths have a right to understand that Islamic knowledge is not only information, but transformation. Transformation was the state of Shaykh Muhammad Sa’id Al-Buti. He transformed himself first, and transformed those around him. A Sufi without a name, but in reality, a Salafi without a label, but in thought, an Ash’ari without rigidness, and a Shafi’i without self-righteousness. The Dunya came to him many many times, but he did not want to have lots of shoes walking behind him, and was not interested in the hunger for “titles” and the position mania. Jelousy and envy was distanced from him as his position in knowledge and practice, along with his harsh asceticism made him far away from the claimers. The chairs in his home were the very old wooden chairs that Syrians used to have in the 60’s, he did not change them. So was the desk, and the simple furniture that’s dates decades back. Ministry and cabinet level positions came begging him, but he ran away from it all. Lately, a concerted campaign to smear and slander him for a position he has always held so profoundly, ended up as a cleansing process for him preparing him for something purer and greater. Yet despite all the oceans of slander and hate-incitements, he kept praying for those who disagreed with him, tried to find excuses for them, and asked them to come and talk, not to use violence to express themselves. There is no doubt that the corrupted and oppressive regime in Syria used the principals of Shaykh Al-Buti to its benefit in the past and presence. But the Shaykh was always giving all sides his wisdom, and was not one sided. Unlike the popular propaganda, Shaykh Al Buti did not endorse the oppression of the regime, but stood firmly against armed rebellion and raging violence that is not only unsubstantiated textually, but leads to the destruction of humans and lands. He profoundly believed that violence to change a political situation or a sitting ruler constitutes a greater evil and is impressible. His position does not come from emptiness, despite the powerful media campaigns nowadays that suggests otherwise. This is a classical understanding held by many of our traditional scholars of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama’a starting from examples that had to deal with Al-Hajjaj and before and after. Irrespective of what the academic conclusion of the “permissibility of violence to change a political circumstance”, this should have been an academic difference, to say the least. The greatest tragedy in Syria today is not just turning a beautiful country into shambles, but the people and forces that are pushing so hard to destroy the actual humanity inside the human being, to rob the soul out of people conscious, and to eradicate any human values, mercy, or compassion left. The walls of hate that are being erected under the banner of love, the planting of a hate ideology that those who disagree with you have no place in life, and that hope is only extended to those you like. The situation in Syria specially and in other Muslim places has just plunged into a deep dark hole, with a promise for more killings and more violence and more evil to come. Please pray for peace to be restored to Syria, all the Muslims, and all human beings all over the world. Pray for mercy to be on all those who lost in their lives in this mad chaos and unfathomable violence, pray for the destitute and refugees that are in the millions today, pray for all afflicted human beings to be saved and granted ease. Pray that Allah Ta’ala saves people, all people, from more bloodshed and misery. As for our Shaykh, may Allah Ta’ala forgive him, bless him, accept him among the martyrs, and grant him the highest levels in Jannatul Firdaws. Amin.".

Harj (killing) in the Last Hour

Ibn Majah and Al-Hakem narrated with an authentic Isnaad,on the authority of Abu... Musa Al-Ash’ari said: (The Messenger of Allah-sallallahu Ta’ala alayhi wa aalihi wa sallam- told us: before The Final Hour is lots of “Harj”. I said: O’Messenger of Allah, what is Harj. He replied: “killings” –in another narration: “mass killings and lies”. Some Muslims said: O’Messenger of Allah: we are engaged in killing –in our battles- so and so of the Mushrikin. The Messenger of Allah –sallallahu Ta’ala alayhi wa aalihi wa sallam- said: That is not the sign –of the indicated Final Hour-, but it is when you kill each other, so that the man will kill his neighbor, cousin, and relatives. Some people said: O’Messenger of Allah, would we have our rationality with us that day?. The Messenger of Allah-sallallahu Ta’ala alayhi wa aalihi wa sallam- said: No. Most of the rational reasoning of the people of that time will be missing, and there will be “executing/leading” people with no rationality. In another narrated wording: “there will be people leading it, they are not among the most significant of people, yet they think high of themselves-on righteousness-“. Abu Musa Al-Ash’ari said – to his friends-: By Allah I think that day is going to catch up with me, and even you. By Allah, if we live to be involved in that day, we need to hold tight to what we pledged to the Prophet, sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi wa sallam, which is to come out of it –clean- like we entered it. Without getting involved in it).
أخرج ابن ماجة بإسناد صحيح والحاكم وصححه وغيرهم عن أبي موسى الأشعري قال: (حَدَّثَنَا رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله تعالى عليه وآله وسلم: " إِنَّ بَيْنَ يَدَيِ السَّاعَةِ لَهَرْجاً "، قَالَ: قُلْتُ: يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ، مَا الْهَرْجُ؟ قَالَ: " الْقَتْلُ " –وفي رواية "القتل والكذب". فَقَالَ بَعْضُ الْمُسْلِمِينَ: يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ، إِنَّا نَقْتُلُ الْآنَ فِي الْعَامِ الْوَاحِدِ مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ كَذَا وَكَذَا، فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله تعالى عليه وآله وسلم: " لَيْسَ بِقَتْلِ الْمُشْرِكِينَ، وَلَكِنْ يَقْتُلُ بَعْضُكُمْ بَعْضاً، حَتَّى يَقْتُلَ الرَّجُلُ جَارَهُ، وَابْنَ عَمِّهِ، وَذَا قَرَابَتِهِ "، فَقَالَ بَعْضُ الْقَوْمِ: يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ، وَمَعَنَا عُقُولُنَا ذَلِكَ الْيَوْمَ، فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله تعالى عليه وآله وسلم: " لَا، تُنْزَعُ عُقُولُ أَكْثَرِ ذَلِكَ الزَّمَانِ، وَيَخْلُفُ لَهُ هَبَاءٌ مِنَ النَّاسِ لَا عُقُولَ لَهُمْ " وفي رواية: "َيُخْلَفُ لَهُ هَنَاءٌ فِي النَّاسِ يَحْسَبُ أَكْثَرُهُمْ أَنَّهُمْ عَلَى شَيْءٍ". ثُمَّ قَالَ الْأَشْعَرِيُّ: وَايْمُ اللَّهِ إِنِّي لَأَظُنُّهَا مُدْرِكَتِي، وَإِيَّاكُمْ وَايْمُ اللَّهِ مَا لِي وَلَكُمْ مِنْهَا مَخْرَجٌ، إِنْ أَدْرَكَتْنَا فِيمَا عَهِدَ إِلَيْنَا نَبِيُّنَا صلى الله عليه وسلم إِلَّا أَنْ نَخْرُجَ كَمَا دَخَلْنَا فِيهَا. وفي رواية بإضافة: "لا نُحْدِثُ فِيهَا شَيْئًا".

Imam Hassan's (as) Speech After Making Peace

When they assembled at al Kufa, Amr b Al -As had been talking with Muawiyah and urged him to bid al Hassan to rise and address the people. But Muawiyah disliked that and asked "Don't you like me to address people?" Amr replied "I intend to show the people his incompetence," and he kept it up until Muawiyah gave in to him and went out. Then he ordered someone to call upon al Hasan b. Ali, "Rise, O Hassan and speak to the people."

So (Al-Hassan) began a spontaneous impromptu speech with the shahdah and then continued "O people God has guided you with the first of us, and spared your blood with the last of us. This regime has a certain duration and the world is subject to change. God almighty and the great said to his Prophet, "If I knew perhaps it is a temptation for you and delight for a while. When he said that, Muawwiyah told him to sit down and remain furious with Amr saying, "This is your idea!" (Tareek Al Tabari page 8 Volume on Muawiya's Rule)

Here is the chain:

Yunus b Musa->Abdullah b Ahmad al Marrudhi-his father- Sulayman b al Fadl-Abdullah -Yunus-Al-Zuhri.           

Why did Umar (ra) kill Fatima (sa) in the 12er Shia view ?

Among the points that makes 12er Shia sect different from all other sects including other shia sects is their belief that Muta is halaal, and of course the killing of bibi Fatima (as). Look up any other Shia sect you won't find any of them supporting these views. My question is  why did Umar (ra) kill Fatima (sa) in the 12er Shia view ? Wouldn't it be better if he killed Imam Ali (as) and his sons ? Even if we look at the case of Muawiyah and Imam Ali (as), Muawiyah got rid of anyone he believed would weaken his government. However, you don't see any 12ers pointing out that he killed Hashimi women. Even Yazid, he never killed Bibi Zaineb (sa) or any women in the Hashimi family.

I found one clip where Hasnain Rajabali says the reason was due to jealousy. To be honest what does Umar (ra) have to envy about Bibi Fatima (sa). If  Bibi Fatima (sa) has merits they mostly belong in the aqira. I am sure Umar (ra) knew that killing anyone would not allow you to steal rewards of aqira. I mean if there was wealth left over then killing someone and taking it would allow you to steal property. Now some 12er might point out that Fadak was big asset. Well Umar (ra) killed Imam Ali (as) then there would be no protector left. Without Imam Ali (as) how many times would Bibi Fatima (sa) be able to claim her property ?


Anyway here is the clip where Rajabali claims its due to jealousy. Refer to the 52 min mark.  Once again I do not see any logic.

Shaykh Mufid Differed With Shaykh Tusi On Jihad

I've read the biography of Shaykh Mufid by an orientalist named Tamima Bayhom-Daou, and in that it states that Shayh Mufid differed with his student on the defense of non-12er Shia rulers.

Leading HolyWar (Jihad) Muslim jurists distinguished between two kinds of jihad: jihad
for defensive purposes and jihad for the spread of Islam and its
territories.According to the Sunni jurists, the imam had a main
role in organizing wars of jihad and it was the duty of Muslims
to participate in them, regardless of whether he was sinful.
Sunnis also tended to sanction campaigns in enemy territory or
on the borders, undertaken by individuals and groups on their
own initiative and in the absence of an imam.
According to early Imamis, jihad for the spread of Islam
may only be undertaken in the presence of a legitimate imam
and under his leadership or that of his representative. Mufid,
however, held that an Imami official appointed by the illegitimate
ruler had the duty to conduct (offensive) jihad against
unbelievers, and even against some Muslim grave sinners, and
that it was the duty of his fellow Imamis to assist him. It is not
clear on what basis Mufid justified his view. It is also not clear
whether his aim was to accord legitimacy to existing practices.
Other scholars of the Buyid period did not uphold his doctrine.
Tusi, the last of those scholars, held that in the absence of the
imam, jihad against the enemies of Islam was suspended and
only defensive jihad might be carried out. According to him,
guarding the frontiers of Islam was a praiseworthy act,
irrespective of whether or not an imam was present. (There is
no evidence that he regarded the scholars as responsible for
organizing defensive jihad or calling upon the people to
wage it.) It was Tusi’s views, not Mufid’s, that influenced Imami
juristic thought on the subject for several centuries to come. (Al Mufid, Bayhom-Daou p 125-126)

 From my understanding Shaykh Mufid used the anology of Imam Ali (as) supporting the governments of the 3 calipahs. On top of that the participation of both Ammar bin Yassir (ra) and Imam Hassan (as) in the wars of the 3 calipahs is well known in history.

While Shaykh Tusi relied on narrations where Jihad is supposed to be suspended till the reappearance of the 12th imam.          

12th Imam's Curse ? and Imam Ali's (as) Sympathy ?

The traitorous behaviour of both Ibn al-`Alqami and Nasiru'd-Din Muhammad ibn Muhammad at-Tusi   during the Mongol invasion is well known in history. There have been attempts by the 12ers to defend this case, and till this day the best defence I have seen from their side is to point out the internal wars between Shafis and Hanafis. This internal war actually helped the Mongols to target Iraq next, however from there it was 12ers shia leaders took over in assisting the opposition come into Iraq. Recall the ruler of this time was not known for his anti shia behaviour. The proof for that is the fact, that Ibn al-Alqami was the minister of the Abbasid ruler  Mustasim Billah. Aside from that let us look at the so called supplication of Shaykh Tusi II which supposed caused this to happen.

The caliph at the moment was vacationing near the Tigris river along with his vizier. He took the book from Shaikh Tusi and handed it to the vizier. Being an enemy of the Ahlul Bayt, the vizier tossed the book into the river and mocked Shaikh Tusi. The aggrieved scholar returned home and prayed for justice. That night, he dreamed that he was standing in front of a wall upon which a very long supplication was inscribed. A man happened to be standing near the wall. The Shaikh inquired as to who he was. The man told him that he was the 12th Imam (may Allah hasten his reappearance).
The Imam told Shaikh Tusi to memorize the supplication and that it would help him overcome his adversary. The supplication survives to this day as the second Du'a Tawassul listed in many prayer manuals, including Mafatihul Jinan.
Shortly thereafter, Shaikh Tusi joined the palace of an Ismaili prince in order to be able to better spread the message of Truth. The Mongols were on the rise in central Asia, and eventually this small kingdom was conquered by Halaku Khan. Seeing Shaikh Tusi's brilliance and widom, Halaku appointed him as prime minister. He often attempted to convert Halaku to Islam, but given the latter's primitive origins and little interest in anything beyond warfare and conflict, he was not too successful. In 656 AH, Halaku invaded and ransacked Baghdad, bringing an end to the Abbasid caliphate. Shaikh Tusi saw the Imam's prophecy come true, as he was able to arrest and punish the vizier for committing atrocities against himself as well as thousands of other Shias.
http://islamicinsights.com/religion/history/shaikh-naseeruddin-tusi.html

Now the next line says

Many people have condemned Shaikh Tusi, blaming his complicity with Halaku as a result of his alleged animosity towards the Sunni political establishment. The truth of the matter is that Shaikh Tusi had little choice in the matter. If he had refused to serve Halaku, he most certainly faced death. By working with Halaku, he was able to spread Shi'ism to several distant parts of the world, and it is said that he did more to propagate the Truth than probably any other person in history. http://islamicinsights.com/religion/history/shaikh-naseeruddin-tusi.html

Little choice ? Fear of facing death ? I thought Shaykh Tusi was motivated by the 12th Imam's curse toward the Sunni popluation.


Now let us analyze if there is any truth in Shaykh Tusi’s vision with the 12^th Imam. In the past Ammar Nakshawani  tried to defend the 12er shia position in this area, but after the opponents of the 12er responded the supporters of Nakshawani made the videos private on youtube.


The allege curse of the  12^th imam’s   went so  far the Mongols invaded Iraq and even attached the shrine of the Imams. Didn’t the 12^th imam know this  ?

Well in history Imam  Ali (as) actually prophesizes this event and discusses the dangers they will cause.

Sermon 127 About Important happenings in Basrah

O' Ahnaf! It is as though I see him advancing with an army which has neither dust nor noise, nor rustling of reins, nor neighing of horses. They are trampling the ground with their feet as if they are the feet of ostriches. (1) Woe to you (the people of Basrah's) inhabited streets and decorated houses which possess wings like the wings of vultures and trunks like the trunks of elephants; they are the people from among whom if one is killed he is not mourned and if one is lost he is not searched for. I turn this world over on its face, value it only according to its (low) value, and look at it with an eye suitable to it.

Referring to the Turks (Mongols)

I (2) can see a people whose faces are like shields covered with rough-scraped skins. They dress themselves in silken and woollen clothes and hold dear excellent horses. Their killing and bloodshed shall take place freely till the wounded shall walk over the dead and the number of runners-away shall be less than those taken prisoner:
One of his companions said to him: O' Amir al-mu'minin, you have been given knowledge of hidden things. Whereupon Amir al-mu'minin laughed and said to the man who belonged to the tribe of Banu Kalb: O' brother of Kalb! This is not knowledge of hidden things (`ilmu'l-ghayb), (3) these matters have been acquired from him (namely in Prophet) who knew them. As regard knowledge of hidden things, that means knowledge of the Day of Judgement, and the things covered by Allah in the verse.

Verily, Allah is He with Whom is the knowledge of the Hour... (Qur'an, 31:34)

Therefore, Allah alone knows what is there in the wombs, whether male or female, ugly or handsome, generous or miserly, mischievous or pious, and who will be the fuel for Hell and who will be in the company of the Prophets in Paradise. This is the knowledge of the hidden things which is not known to anyone save Allah. All else is that whose knowledge Allah passed on to His Prophet and he passed it on to me, and prayed for me that my bosom may retain it and my ribs may hold it.

Najh Al Balagha Sermon 127

Another Blatant Nasibi

I got someone to translate this for me and he   wishes that he was the killer of Imam Husayn, to "realize the reward of following the Sunnah.

This understanding is taken IMAM IBN ABDEL BARR and sadly he is a Maliki.

Now the defense for this is he supposedly  is referring to a Hadith in Al Bukhari (or Muslim) where the Prophet (peace be upon him) ordered to kill the one who claims to be the Khalifah if there is already a Khalifah.

On the contrary, Yazid was King. He was not a calipah. The Prophet (pbuh) said the Caliphate will last 30 years. Therefore, how can this rule extend to Muawiyah and Yazid ?

An Explicit Nasibi Syed Salafi Scholar

I always thought Nasibis were hidden among the community. However, it seems like we have people who are open about their beliefs.

Syrian Muhaddith Shaykh Zuhair Shawish, says: " I am Husayni by genealogy, Umawi by Manhaj (belief/methodology). Husayn bin Ali fought a war and may have been mistaken".

Common Sense Is Enough to Tell You Where Bibi Fatima (sa) Should Be Burried ?

I've heard some 12ers Shia say that Abi Bakr(ra) stopped Bibi Fatima (as) from being buried beside the Prophet  . Then they add that Imam Ali (as) dug a tunnel from jannat al Baqi to reach there because of Abi Bakr's (ra) rule.
So in their view we have both the Prophet    and Bibi Fatima (sa) buried beside the Abi Bakr (ra) and Umar (ra).

I asked the 12ers what is the proof that Bibi Fatima (sa) should be buried beside Abi Bakr (ra) ? The 12ers said its common sense because that is part of inheritance.
I replied back by saying if it is common sense then I have about a dozen of questions to ask you.

If its common sense are any of Imam Ali's (as) daughter(s) buried beside him ?
If its common sense are any of Imam Hassan's (as) daughter(s) buried beside him ?
If its common sense are any of Imam Hussain's (as) daughter(s) buried beside him ?
If its common sense are any of Imam Sajjad's (as) daughter(s) buried beside him ?
If its common sense are any of Imam Baqir's (as) daughter(s) buried beside him ?
If its common sense are any of Imam Sadiq's (as) daughter(s) buried beside him ?
If its common sense are any of Imam Kazim's (as) daughter(s) buried beside him ?
If its common sense are any of Imam Rida's (as) daughter(s) buried beside him ?
If its common sense are any of Imam Taqi's (as) daughter(s) buried beside him ?
If its common sense are any of Imam Naqi's (as) daughter(s) buried beside him ?
If its common sense are any of Imam Askari's (as) daughter(s) buried beside him ?


If the answer to all these question is no then please explain how this is common sense or part of inheritance as the 12er shia say?

The 12ers had no answer left.
Also, we must recall that be buried beside the Prophet   is a big merit because Imam Hassan (as) himself asked Bibi Ayesha (ra) permission to have this privilege.

Of course the 12er version of this story about Bibi Ayesha (ra) arrow or opposing Imam Hassan (as) has been proven wrong umpteen amount of times.          

The Radius of Blessing of Masjid al Kufa is 12 miles ?

Whenever you remind a 12er that Abi Bakr (ra) and Umar (ra) are buried beside the Prophet    they reply by saying "so what?"


However, in their traditions the 6th imam says "up to twelve miles of land in all directions from the mosque are blessed by its holiness."

      Hudhayfah narrated that Imam Al-Sadiq said :"by God ! this holy place is one of the four dignified mosques, which are: Grand Mosque in Kaaba, the Mosque of Medina, Al Aqsa Mosque, and this Mosque of Yours -  he meant  Al-Kufa Grand Mosque – By God ! it is there at that holy pillar where the diluvium had started submerging earth and right there at the fifth column beyond the nave of the mosque, Kinda gate, and niche of Prophet Ibrahim Al-Khalil, whereas in the middle of it, Noah had had his ark made there. Performing two prostrations of prayer would be better for me than ten others at any mosque –as an infallible Imam he means it is better for all Muslims to do so – And the mosque had lost twelve thousand arms area- ruined by the tyrant Obeid allah bin Ziad- even though it was the bless of its original 12miles and always would be."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Mosque_of_Kufa#cite_note-MAK-2


However, in the 12er shia books I have not seen any traditions on the radius of blessings  on mosque of the Prophet (pbuh).

The Dozener Ship of Salvation

Although this article is from a Salafi site, I think gives you a general understanding of the jahil beliefs of the 12er shia.

Once upon a time, I was by the beach. It was a windy day, and the waves were hitting the shore so hard. A mile from where I was standing, there was a ship sailing. Luckily, I had with me a pair of binoculars. I looked through them, and guess what? I saw a tag sign on the ship says “The Ship of Salvation”.

It rang a bell in my mind. I’ve heard about this ship from the Shi’ites books, and had the desire the get on board of this ship ever since. It was an opportunity I couldn’t afford to miss.

I hired a boat, and before I know it, I was there, next to the “Ship of Salvation”. I waived for them to stop and pick me up. Sure enough, someone on board threw me a rope, and I managed to get on board.

Frankly speaking, it was a huge ship, just like the ship Titanic. I was so happy to be on it. It was amazing indeed. There were so many people on board, and all have welcomed me and congratulated me for being “saved”.

I decide to treat myself by taking a tour on this ship. There were so many rooms, halls and courts onboard. So I decided to check them out.

I went through the first room, and there I found a man dressed in black guarding a safe filled with money and treasures. I was quite amazed that the overall majority of the people on board were poor, yet this man is such filthy rich. He noticed what was going in my mind, and said:

- This is my money, it is my due ‘cuz I’m a sayyid.

I didn’t quite understand what he meant by that. Nevertheless, being so happy to be on board of this great ship, I left him to check the next room.

As soon as I walked out, I heard a young girl’s voice screaming & yelling. I asked the people of what’s going on?

They said: her dad is contracting her for Mut’ah to a rich man, but she’s refusing. I didn’t care much and continued my own tour.

The next room I got in, there were lots of kids of all ages. I asked the baby sitter what are these kids doing here?

She said: they are the products of Mut’ah.

I said: Gosh, what the heck is Mut’ah?

She said: It is a form of a marriage for an hour, a night, a week or whatever. It was forbidden by the 2nd.

I asked: Well … didn’t the 2nd like "marriage"?

She said: The Prophet made it Halal.

I said: wasn’t Mut’ah a practice of pre-Islamic era, and Islam forbade it gradually like liquor?

She said: Nope.

I said: Oh ok. If this is the Ship of Salvation, I assume everything you guys say is true.

I kept on touring the Ship. But at this time, I heard the Adhaan for Friday Prayer. I went a head to perform the Prayer, but I found so many people stayed in their rooms and only few went to the mosque.

Naturally I asked them, how come you are not praying whilst you are on the Ship of Salvation?

One of them answered me saying: Friday Prayer is not mandatory before the appearance of Al-Mahdi [aj]

I said: oh ok, Jazakallah.

On my way to the mosque, there I noted so many courts written on them “Hussainiyyah”.

I asked: ummm, what are these?

And I was told: these are the Homes of al-Hussain.

I said: Does Al-Huusain have homes just like Allah?

They replied: yep.

I said to myself, yalla since Friday Prayer is not a Fard, let me enter one of these Hussainiyyahs and see what they do in there.

As soon as I walked in, I heard some people crying, others are weeping, and some are hitting their backs with chains, n others cutting their heads w/ swords.

I said to one of them, isn’t this an act forbidden in Islam?

He said: nope, only when it causes harm, but it ain't causing any.

I smiled n said Kewl, cuz after all I am on board of “Ship of Salvation”.

Then, I heard some of them saying:

May Allah curse the 1st, the 2nd and the 3rd.

I said: what’s going on? Are high school grades already out?

They said: Noooooo.

I said: oh ok, what do you mean then?

They said: speak in a low breath.

I said: why? What do you mean … I’m lost.

They said: hush .. speak in a low breath.

They said: lest our Sunni brothers hear you.

I said: this ship is the Ship of Salvation, only Shi’ites on board.

They said: oh yeah, that’s right, we forgot about that. Ummm, we mean by the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, Abu Bakr, Omar and Othman.

I said: you curse the companions of the Messenger [saw] whom Allah stated He is well pleased with and repented upon?


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The vanguard (of Islam)- the first of those who forsook (their homes) and of those who gave them aid, and (also) those who follow them in (all) good deeds,- well- pleased is Allah with them, as are they with Him: for them hath He prepared gardens under which rivers flow, to dwell therein for ever: that is the supreme felicity. (9:100)


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Allah turned with favour to the Prophet, the Muhajirs, and the Ansar,- who followed him in a time of distress, after that the hearts of a part of them had nearly swerved (from duty); but He turned to them (also): for He is unto them Most Kind, Most Merciful. (9:117)

They said: but they have turned apostates afterwards.

I said: these verses are explicit on His pleasure with them, have you any verses proves they’ve deserved his wrath?

They said: you don’t understand.

They asked me: Don’t you know that Omar attacked Fatimah, broke her ribs and murdered the child in her womb?

I said to myself: it sounds like a movie by Hollywood. But then I said: Where was Haidar?

They said: He does not like to get into quarrels.

I felt so embarrassed and remembered I am on board of Ship of Salvation. Nevertheless I said: ummm, can I ask a question?

They said: sure .. go ahead.

I said: if you are proud of your creed and believe it is the truth, why not openly curse the companions by their names?

They said: Oh, that is mandated by Taqiyyah.

I said: but Taqiyyah should be taken as a temporary permit, not a creed and certainly not to be 9-10th of the faith.

They said: just be quiet, you don’t understand.

I said to myself, why are you such a pain in the back? Don’t you realize you are on board of the Ship of Salvation?

I halted for a moment, and said to myself: why don’t you open the Qur’an and read few pages to relax and kick out the whims of Shaytan?

I walked toward the mosque .. and got in, and asked a brother to hand me a Qur’an.

He sure enough handed me a copy. I turned the cover page on, and surprisingly it says on: Mus’haf Othman, the narration of Hafs on the authority of ‘Asim.

I said to myself: my goodness, wasn’t it this man they have been cursing a minute ago? I turned to them and asked:

Is this “Othman” different from the one you curse?

They replied: nope, it is him the same guy.

I said: Then why are you reading his version?

They said: ummm just temporarily, until the hidden Imam comes up and bring forth the real version which contains the scandals of the companions and the real order of chapters.

I said: can we really be following truth and not have a version of the Qur’an with a Shi’ite chain of narrators? Can we really use the Nasibis’ chain of narrators?

They said: Just be quiet, you don’t understand.

I really felt so bad at this moment. But I said Aiuthubillah, and kept on going to continue my tour.

Somehow, I felt the desire to read the Hadith of the Messenger [saw]. I headed toward one of those Homes of al-Hussain, and I asked for a book of Hadith.

The people in there were taken by surprise. They said: Say what?

I said: I’m asking you for a book of Hadith of the Messenger [saw].

They said: why?

I said: I wanno read it, understand it, and memorize it.

They said: no no no

I said: what do you mean by no no no?

They said: you don’t have to, all you need to do is to make taqleed to one of the Marji3, give him 1/5th of your income, and he will teach you and tell you what to do.

I was shocked .. I mean, can’t I read the Hadith of the messenger [saw] just like I read the Qur’an?

They said without hesitation: We don’t have a Sahih Books, our books are filled with lies, myth and superstitions, let alone the chain of narrators are sucks. We have 100,000 narrations by Zurara, yet Imam Ja’far [as] says: May Allah curse Zurara. But the Marji’ knows how to deduct what is good for you out of these books.

I said: how can that be? We are the followers of Ahlul-Bayt, yet we don’t have a true Qur’an or authentic Hadith?

They said: be quiet, you don’t understand.

I said: hasbiyallah .. fine, I will find me a Marji to follow him and pay him 1/5th of my income. But how would I know who is a Marji’

They answered me: oh, you will find him wearing blacks.

Sure enough, I found at a distance a man with black outfit, I approached him and said: Are you a Marji sir?

He said: nope, I am a janitorial man. You will know the Marji’ by his headgear. He wears a black tire head turban.

At anyhow, I found me one with black turban. I approached him and said: Sayyed, can I pay you 1/8th of my income for teaching me my faith and make a taqleed for you?

He said: Nope, I will not accept less than 1/5th.

I said: look, I have a good bargain for you, I will give you 1/6th of the income.

He said: No way, the price is fixed, not negotiable.

I said: What evidence have you to take 1/5th? Was the Messenger [saw] taking 1/5th of the people’s wealth and businesses? He surely was taking 1/5th of the booties of wars.

He said: shut the hell up, you don’t understand.

I was really sad at this point. I left him, and on the way, I found another Hussainiyyah. I walked in, and saw a multitude of people sitting in listening to a lecture. I said, al-Hamdulillah, finally I found a Majlis of knowledge. I sat down and began to listen to the speaker who was saying the Imams are better than the Prophets of Allah.

I couldn’t be quiet, I said: how in the world you make a preference for the Imams over the Prophets of Allah? Are you doubting the Choice of Allah? Is al-Askari better than Khalilur-Rahman Ibrahim? Do you think al-Baqir is better than Kaleemullah Musa or the Word of Allah Isa?

The people just gave me a bad look and started to stare at me. I got scared, so I kept quiet.

He then moved on to talk about the creed of al-Badaa’. He said: The Imam after Ja’far was his son Ismael, but then Ismael died before his father. So Allah changed His mind and decided to make the following Imam Musa al-Kadhim. I was shocked, but I wasn’t able to speak out.

I left quickly, and decided to continue with my tour. I saw a ballroom lit with lights and a lot of people were in there. I approached near, and found some tombs that the people are crowling around, making circumambulation and asking the dead to answer their prayers and grant them their needs. I was again shocked. I thought to myself, I must have got in the wrong ship.

A man approached me and said, come on fellow, ask for your needs, the saints will surely grant you your wishes. They have attained a high rank with Allah and Allah does not turn them down.

But I still had my doubts, I recalled the Kuffar of Quraish and how they used to make circumambulation around their idols asking them to grant them their needs, and their belief that they are only a medium between mankind and Allah. As I looked around, I found a door to a basement. I went through a narrow hall that lead me to the basement. In there, I found a book three times the size of the Qur’an with lots of changes and distortions, as well as other books, a stick and a sword.

Suddenly, a naked man showed up. I was horrified. I said, who are you?

He said: I am Abu Salih, the Mahdi.

I checked him out again, he was smelling and looks so awful, with old piece of clothing on the ground, which I figured was his since he was two years old. I was really dead scared. I ran out, and out of my horror I stumbled with a rope was there and fell in the sea water.

I managed to keep my head above the water, and lo I saw from a distance another ship, it was written on it:

In The Name of Allah, Most Beneficent, Most Merciful.

There is no god but Allah, Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah.

The Ship of Muhammad, His Progeny and Companions.

The Ship of al-Qur’an & Sunnah

The Ship of loving Ahlul-Bayt and companions

The Ship of Loving Mothers of Believers.

The Ship of Islamic Conquests and spreading Islam.

The Ship of Fasting the Day and Praying at Night

The Ship of Those who call only On Allah.

I started to hear from distance the recitation of Qur’an, with people praying and crying to Allah.

I lifted my hands up praising Allah, and knew that was the real Ship of Salvation.

I swam my way toward that ship, and got on board. And lo it shined up, and I fell in prostration to Allah.

And I woke up. God what a sweet dream

(translated from a post on www.d-sunnah.net)