Imam Ali (as) Says Be With The Great Majority

"With regard to me, two categories of people will be ruined, namely he who loves me too much and the love takes him away from rightfulness, and he who hates me too much and the hatred takes him away from rightfulness. The best man with regard to me is he who is on the middle course. So be with him and be with the great majority (of Muslims) because Allah's hand (of protection) is on keeping unity. You should beware of division because the one isolated from the group is (a prey) to Satan just as the one isolated from the flock of sheep is (a prey) to the wolf. (Sermon 126 Nahjul Balaghah) "

The 12rs think the shias in time of Imam Ali (as) were shias like themselves. So they say that is the majority. As for placing Ahle sunnah in this ahadith the 12rs say we don't even fall under this ahadith. They believe this hadith applies to only those who surrounded Imam Ali (as) and supported him in the battles of Jamal and Siffin. Therefore, within that ahadith they say those who love the imam too much are those who say Ali was god, the haters they classify as Khawari, and the middle they call those shias who fought under Imam Ali (as) in the Jamal, Siffin and Narwaan.

However, I have trapped the 12r by posting another tafseer of a sermon where it proves their interpretation to be false.

Who was the majority in the time of the Imam ?

The 12r Shia tafseer of sermon 97 says the majority of Imam Ali (as) followers accepted him as the 4th calipah.

However, there was one group who was swearing allegiance to him as a religious obligation regarding his Caliphate as determined by Allah. Otherwise, the majority regarded him a ruler like the other Caliphs, and as regards precedence, on the fourth position, or at the level of the common men after the three caliphs.
http://www.al-islam.org/nahj/

Hadrat Abu Talib was a Momin

Q. What is the true position regarding the religion of Abu Talib, the uncle of the Messenger of Allah and the father of Ali?

A. The author of the well renowned book Sirat-An-Nabi, Allamah Shibli Nu'mani believed that Hadrat Abu Talib was a Believer and he recited the Kalima at the time of his death in presence of the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) into the ears of Al Abbas.

He also disregarded the narrations of Muslim and Bukhari as being unreliable because their narrator was not only a Kafir himself at the time when he allegedly witnessed this event, but states that he was actually not even present in the room with the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), Abu Talib and the Prophet’s uncles and therefore, this tradition is "not worth taking as reliable".

Here is the excerpt from Allamah Shibli Nu'mani's book Sirat-An-Nabi, from Vol 1. "Death of Khadija and Abu Talib" P. 223-224:

“The Prophet asked Abu Talib to recite the credo of Islam La illa ha illallah Muhammadur Rasulullah, so that he might bear witness to his faith in the presence of Allah (SWT). Abu Jahil and Ibn Umayya expostulated with Abu Talib and asked if he was going to turn away from the religion of Abd al-Muttalib. In the end, Abu Talib said he was dying with his belief in the religion of Abd al Muttalib. Then he turned to the Prophet (S) and said that he would have recited that creed, but he feared lest the Quraish should accuse him of the fear of death. The Prophet (S) said that he would be praying to Allah for him till He forbade. This is the version of Al Bukhari and Muslim. Ibn Ishaq says that while dying Abu Talib's lips were in motion. Abbas, (the Prophet's uncle)...put his ears to his lips and said to the Prophet (S) that he was reciting the KALIMA the Prophet (S) had wanted of him. It is on account of these conflicting reports that there is such a difference of opinion regarding the Islam of Abu Talib. But as the version of Al Bukhari is generally considered to be more trustworthy, the traditionalists hold him to have died an unbeliever.

But from a traditionalist point of view, this report of Al Bukhari is not worth taking as reliable because the last narrator is Musaiyyab who embraced Islam after the fall of Mecca and was not himself present at the time of Abu Talib's death. It is on this account that Al Aini, in his commentary has remarked that this tradition is mursal.” (Nu’mani, Sirat-An-Nabi, Vol.1 p.224)

And Allah Knows Best!

Ahmed Amiruddin

Source:

Sirat-An-Nabi (The Life of the Prophet), by Allamah Shibli Nu'mani, rendered into English by M. Tayyib Budayuni. Rightway Publications, New Delhi, India. From Vol 1. "Death of Khadija and Abu Talib" P. 223-224.

Tafsir Uthmani, Allama Shabbir Ahmad Uthmani, trans. Muhammad Ashfaq Ahmad (Bombay: Taj Publishers, 1992) vol. 2, p. 1657.

http://www.alsunnahfoundation.org/Abu_Talib.html

Imam Ali and the Atheist Group

by Shaykh Nazim Al Haqqani


Once upon a time, there was a group of atheist. They requested to visit Sayyidina Ali (Allah blessings be upon him) in order to discuss an issue with him. They told the imam 'we are coming to visit you and we want to have a discussion.'

Sayyidina Ali replied ' We can have a discussion but if you want to have an argument then I don't have time because arguments are forbidden, but discussions are acceptable. The atheists made an agreement. The atheists started by saying 'You are an Imam, an Imam of Muslims. You are saying that there is another life on earth? You claim that this is a short life and beyond it there is an eternal life? You have faith in such a thing and you claim that in this world there are laws which dictate what is halal (lawful) and what is haram (forbidden). On top of that you pray, meditate and fast and practice other religious rituals. We see all these rituals to be a burden that only waste time, and restrict you from real freedom.

As you know freedom is very beautiful. In order to live freely you should have no restrictions on what is halal (lawful) and what is haram (forbidden) . Everything should halal (lawful), nothing should be haram (forbidden). This is our philosophical belief. With all these restrictions in your beliefs, you have go through so many difficulties. In our philosophical thought, we live freely without any restrictions. We do whatever we like. What do have left to say?'

Sayyidina Ali replied by questioning the atheists' accusations 'I am going to ask you one question. You claim that you are happy with your life because you are free to do anything you want and nothing is preventing you from fulfilling your egos? Is this the case? On top of that you accuse of us Muslims of carrying a heavy burden since we have laws on what is haram (forbidden) ? Then you add that on top of our restrictions we have services to commit such as praying, we fasting, giving charity, perform hajj etc ? Is this what you are concluding? ", Sayyidina Ali continued, 'One question! Do you ponder of day when we are going to leave this world and no longer be able practice this so called freedom?'

The atheist began thinking.

'Now people are either following laws and doing good or doing whatever they want. They continue doing this till their deaths.

The atheists replied ' Go on'.

"That means your freedom is going to come to an end one day. Are you getting pleasure from this freedom which is going to end one day? Are you aware this freedom has its limits ? You claim we are placing a burden on our selves by following religious rituals like praying, fasting, giving charity etc? Just like how the day of pleasure will end one day, our services to Allah has its deadline. The Imam continued "o unbelievers, materialists, and atheist people you are saying, there is nothing beyond our life and that and we are equal. But you must think since we service ourselves to Allah we also believe as result, we are going to go into a realm of endless pleasures instead of staying in realm of limited pleasure. Think about yourselves. What is going be a result when your pleasure days are over?' Imam Ali got the atheist to think deeper. What is going to happen when you die, and you discover there is a hell and a heaven? What would your position be? How did you prepare for the next world? In the next world if there is no hell and heaven then you and equal in status. But if there is a hell and a paradise then us believing in it is going get us into paradise and whereas you as result will be in loss. This loss will be a pathway to hell. Think about it!"

The atheists contemplated and said "O Imam. You are so right. Your opinion, what you saying, it is just 100% filling into our mentalities. Now that are beginning to understand, and we must take the safe route. The safe route is your way. The wrong way is our way and our philosophical thoughts.

We are now going to declare 'ashadu an la ilaha illallah, illallah, illallah, wa ashadu sayyidina Muhammadan abduhu wa habibihu wa rasulu sallallahu alayhi wa sal'lam"

Fatiha.

The Signs of Nasabis Who Are Hidden Among the Sunnis

Syed Ninowy exposes the Nisabis that are found among the Sunnis. The Nawasib are so corrupt that they try to inject their blasphemous views toward the Sunni Madhab. How do they do this?
They do this by giving us shaytaini inspirations. They tell the average Sunni to:

• Prevent naming their children Ali, Hassan or Hussain
• Not name their mosques after Imam Ali (as)
• Not talk about Imam Ali (as) seerah or gives his examples
• Not wear black cause that is a color which is restricted to the people of the shia sect
• Not mention the merits of Imam Ali (as)

On top of that the Nisabis deny the merits of Imam Ali (as) which are graded as sahih.

The Nawasib in reality are not Sunnis. The reason is Sunnis believe in Imam Ali (as) as a guide and acknowledge his merits.

Syed Ninowy also points out the Nisabi leaning of Ibn Taymiya.

Ibn Tamiyah states

ابن تيمية في منهاج في الجزء الثالث في ص175



فإن عليا قاتل على الولاية وقتل بسبب ذلك خلق كثير عظيم ، ولم يحصل في ولايته لا قتال للكفار ولا فتح لبلادهم ، ولا كان المسلمون في زيادة خير



Ibn Taymiya says : Ali fought for politics and because of this scores were killed and nothing good happened in his rule, no war with kuffar, no gain of other lands and for moslims there was no 'khair' Good (in his reign) for Muslims (Minhaj as Sunnah)

This paragraph has a few things that Ibn Taymiya is saying:

1- That Imam Ali fought his wars for the sake of the chair, not for Islam, contrary to the multiple hadiths by the Prophet, sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi wa sallam himself.

2- He blames Sayydina Ali for the death of the people who died in the battles. Which means: if we use Ibn Taymiya's logic: the Prophet, sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi wa sallam, is to blame for the killing of Sayidina Hamza!!!! and all the Shuhada of the companions (ra).

3-That in the Khilafa os Sayyidina Ali, no fighting of the Kuffar took place.
Remember a minute ago, he blamed sayyidina Ali for the people who fought for the Haqq, now he turns around and says why didn't you fight.

4- That in the Khilafa of Sayyidina Ali, no concurring of other lands happened.
Well, the Prophet, sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi wa sallam, himself, stayed in macca 13 years spreading and teaching Islam, and not only didn't concur lands, he lost his home and land, and the Sahaba lost their homes and lands...

The Prophet, sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi wa sallam, however, and Sayyidina Ali did concur the hearts of the those who love the Haqq, were on the Haqq, and supported the Haqq.

5- That during the Khilafa of Sayyidina Ali, Muslims did not increase in Khayr (goodness and prosperity).
What more Khayr do you want than to be able to look at the honorable face of Ali bin Abi Taleb. A look that is considered Ibada, an act of worship by itself!!!!!!
The Hadith is " looking at the face of Ali is ibadah", and Shaykh Ninowy said it was Saheeh, and its narrated in Musnad Ahmad.




Another narration by Ibn Taymiyya showing his flagrant Nasibi/yazidi ideology by negating the bounties (fazael) of Sayyidina Ali:

Ibn Taymiyya says in the "Minhaaj of "his" Sunnah" Vol.4/ page 86:
( the hadith that : {whosoever I am his Mawla, Ali is his mawla} is not in the authenic references, but it is the sayings of some scholars, and people disagreed in its authenticity).

Al-Albani (another salafi) refutes Ibn Tamiyah:
Al-Albani said in "his" (silsilah Saheehah) vol. 4 page 344, and vol. 5 page263-264 ( What is odd that shaykhul Islam ibn Taymiyya dares to deny this Hadith, and he rejected it in "minhaj as Sunnah"., and I don't really know the reason for such a denial to this Hadith (saheeh), except rushing and exxagerative refutation against the Shia).

Tabarra (Character Assissination) from the 12r Shia

Whenever you ask the 12r shia/rafida if they curse the sahaba, they respond by saying we only curse those who deserved to be cursed or they say by sending lanaat its just a way of asking Allah (swt) to remove mercy from certain personalities. Now if there is a personality who 12r shia hate the most I would say its hz Umar (ra). The 12rs believe he is responsible for Bibi Fatima's (sa) death so they try to justify one reason to why they curse Hz Umar (ra). Now in my previous post I have talked about the orgins of Tabarra which started by Muawiyah and the Ummavi rulers after him. Muawiyah claimed that Uthmaan (ra) was unjustly killed so he justified why he cursed Imam Ali (as). He also claimed that Imam Ali (as) was unworthy of leadership and that he was jealous of the first 3 calipahs. Muawiyah writes his first letter to Imam Ali (as) saying:



The most in advice to Allah and His Messenger was his successor- that's in reference to Abi Bakr (radi Allahu anhu)- then the successor of his successor- that's in reference to Umar ibn Al Khattab (radi Allahu anhu), and then the 3rd successor who was killed without justice, Uthman. Muawiyah is saying to Ali. You were jealous of all of them- meaning these three successors to the Prophet- you have aggressed against all of them. We could tell that from the smirk on your face and from the words of division which you pronounced and the times of relief that you felt during their reign and the way you were slow in consolidating with them- meaning with the khulafa' to the Prophet. In all of that time period pertaining to the three successors to the Prophet you were being led or drawn as a reluctant camel would be pulled and you were not more expressive in envy to any of them than you were to your paternal aunt's son- this is in reference to Uthman. (Baladhuri)


Here Muawiyah uses two reasons to justify his cursing of Imam Ali (as). One reason is he believed Imam Ali (as) was responsible for Uthmaan's (ra) death. The other reason can be seen from his first letter to Imam Ali (as) where he attacks the legtimacy of Imam Ali's (as) leadership. Imam Ali (as) reponds to this letter by saying

You mentioned that Allah chose for him helpers from the Muslims who supported him, and that they were ranked to Him according to their merits in Islam. You asserted that the most excellent of them in Islam, and the most sincere to Allah and the Messenger (saws) were the caliph [i.e. Abu Bakr] and his caliph [i.e. Umar]. I swear by my life, their stations were indeed great, and the loss of them was a great wound! May Allah be merciful to them and grant them a great reward! You also mentioned that Uthman was third in excellence. If Uthman was good then Allah will reward him for that; if not, he will encounter a Lord who is Most Merciful and forgives any sin, no matter how great. I swear by Allah, I am hopeful that when people are rewarded by Allah for their excellence and sincerity to Him and His Messenger, our share will be the most abundant! ( Ansab of al-Baladhuri and the Wa'qat Siffin by al-Minqari.)

Now there are more details to these letters, but the focus here is emphasize on the concept of Tabarra. which certain sects believe its justitifed. I have listed 2 reasons why Muawiyah did Tabarra against Imam Ali (as). Now I will list 2 main reasons why 12r shias justify their Tabarra against the first 3 calipahs. The main reason is they believe that the first 3 calipahs were unworthy of leadership. The second reason is they actually think Bibi Fatima (sa) was killed and Umar (ra) was responsible for it.

Now again if we look at history Tabarra (character assissination) it was pioneered by Muawiyah and the Ummavi Kings who took power after him. Today on the contrary, its mainly practiced by the 12r shia. The reason why the Ummavis Kings and 12r Shia do Tabaara is similar, and difference is who they do it toward. As for Imam Ali (as) he never cursed the Calipahs, sure he differed from him many times but he never cursed them. As for the narration where 12rs use to say that bibi Fatima (sa) cursed the calipahs in every prayer those narrations don't have any chains.

Also, from the 12rs books we find many narrations which promote Tabarra (character assisination). I've seen these quotes on many websites and many shia sites such as answering ansaar haven't responded to them. On the contary, Answering Ansaar has responded to the hadith of Imam Mahdi (as) taking revenge against the sahaba. Below are quotes taken from the promienent shia scholar Mullah Baqir Al Majlisi. Al Majlisi in the shia sect has the status that ibn Tamiyah has for the salafis/wahabis.

Mullah Muhammed bin Yaqoob Kulaini, the most prominent Shi'ite scholar of Hadith, quotes Imam Baqir as saying:

'People became apostates after the death of the Prophet (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam), except for three people: Miqdad ibn Aswad, Abu Dharr Ghifari and Salmaan Farsi.' He continues:

'Abu Bakr and Omar did not repent before they parted the world. In fact, they did not even mention what they had done to Ali. So may Allah, His angels and all of mankind curse them. (Furu'ul Kafi: Kitabul Rauda: 115)

Mullah Baqir writes:

'Regarding the doctrine of' 'Tabarri' we believe that we should seek disassociation from four idols namely, Abu Bakr, Omar, Uthman and Mu'awiyah; from four women namely, Ayesha, Hafsa, Hind and Ummul Hakam, along with all their associates and followers. 'These are the worst creation of Allah. It is not possible to believe in Allah, His Messenger and the Imams without disassociating oneself from their enemies. (Haqqul Yaqeen: 2:519)

[The doctrine of 'Tabarri' means to have no association with the enemies of Allah.]

Mullah Baqir writes:

'One should say after each prayer: O Allah! Curse Abu Bakr, Omar, Uthman, Mu'awiyah, Ayesha, Hafsa, Hind and Ummul Hakam. (Aynul Hayat: 599)

The Prophet (Sallallaahu Alayhi wa aalihi Wasallam), came to a person from the Ansaar and asked him if he had any food. The Ansaari said he had and slaughtered a goat. The man then grilled some meat and presented it to the Prophet (Sallallaahu Alayhi wa aalihi Wasallam) who wished that Ali, Fathima, Hasan and Hussain were present with him. Then Abu Bakr and Omar arrived. Ali also arrived shortly after. Allah then revealed the verse:

'We have never sent any messenger prophet or Muhaddath before except that when ever they desired something, the devil interfered in their desire.' (The Prophet then said) This is just as the devil has sent his two agents here right now (Abu Bakr and Omar). (The footnotes of Maqbool's translation: Surah Hajj: 674)

[Muhaddath is a non-prophet but he is inspired by Allah]

Mullah Baqir Majlisi writes:

'Pharaoh and Hamaan refer here to Abu Bakr and Omar. (Haqqul Yaqeen: 342)

The same author also says:

'The references in big books about the illegitimate birth of Omar cannot be discussed in this book. (Ibid: 259)

Allah says in Surah Nahl (90):

"And He prevents you from immorality, unlawfulness and rebellion.'

Ali ibn Ibrahim AI-Qummi comments on this verse: 'These three vices refer to so and so, so and so and so and so.' (Al Qummi's commentary: 218)

Any ambiguity is cleared by the following comment: 'Immorality refers to the first person (Abu Bakr); unlawfulness refers to the second (Omar) and rebellion refers to the third (Uthman). (Footnotes to Maqbool's translation: 522)

Today the government of Iran is promoting a concept of unity where Sunnis and shias unite against a greater enemy. However, the ironic part about this concept is Iran doesn't even want to built any relations with Sunnis within their own country. They presecuted many Sunnis scholars in Iran, and won't allow Sunnis to have even one mosque in Tehran. As for Tabarra, I am sure you can find more than 70,000 mosques in Tehran where the Sahabas are cursed.

Imam Ali (as) & Prophet Isa (as)

Imam Ali (as) is among the most important personalities in Islam. He is the 4th Rightly Guided calipah of the Ummah and Spiritual heir of Prophet (sawas). Through him there are 40 sufi Tariqahs traced and one sufi Tariqh which traces to Abu Bakr (ra). There are many parts of Imam Ali's (as) history which are not discussed about in our local masjids. Imam Ali's (as) history is actually very similar to Prophet Isa's (as) history. The reason is both personalities were surounded by three groups. Two of these three groups were extreme. One extreme group loved them too much and one group hated them. Imam Ali (as) life was so similar to Prophet Isa's (as) that the RasoolAllah (sawas) mentioned to Imam Ali (as) that he is like Prophet Isa (as). The reason being is since Imam Ali (as) will come across people who hate him and people who love to the extreme.

The hadith is recorded in Imam Ahmad's Musnad

Narrated Imam Ali bin Abu-Talib (a.s) said: "The Messenger of Allah called me and told me: 'You are alike with Jesus, Yahood hated him till they slandered his mother, and Nasaara loved him till they put him in the position that is not for him.' With regard to me, two categories of people will be ruined, namely he who loves me too much and the love takes him away from rightfulness, and he who hates me too much and the hatred takes him away from rightfulness. Verily, I am not a prophet, and there is nothing revealed to me. But I work with the Book of Allah and the Sunnah of his Prophet (pbuh) as much as I can. So whatever I have asked you in regard of obeying Allah, it is your duty to obey me whether you like it or not." [Ahmad]

The same Hadith is also found in al Hakim's in Mustadrak

As extremes existed in Prophet Isa's (as) time, likewise these type of extremes existed during Imam Ali (as) time as well. A group of people loved Imam Ali (as) so much that they said he declared him to be a God. Another group hated him so much that they began cursing him, declared him as evil being, and even persecuted him.